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Is Brexit actually going to happen?

Will we have a brexit?


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Yes. Do you think there will be an editorial shift?
I think they've already said no,but we'll wait and see.The interesting thing is despite the headlines most surveys show that people accept both foreign students and foreign workers in jobs where there is a skill shortage .obviously begs the question why there is a skill shortage.
 
Not as fast as the growers are deciding to move their operations abroad to carry on getting the cheap fruit that supermarkets demand according to this:
Lack of migrant workers left food rotting in UK fields last year, data reveals
Typical Project Fear Guardain article imo . One blueberry supplier says they are moving to China and anectodal claims that fruit and veg are being left to rot in the ground because of labour shortages. The truth is that according to Defra (2017) a fifth of lettuces and a tenth of strawberries are left to rot on farms each year .10,000 tonnes of strawberries, worth £24m, and 38,000 tonnes of lettuces, worth £7m, were wasted in 2015, becaese supermarkets rejected them as not being uniform and being too ugly.The equivalent to the daily needs of 4.4m people.
 
Typical Project Fear Guardain article imo . One blueberry supplier says they are moving to China and anectodal claims that fruit and veg are being left to rot in the ground because of labour shortages. The truth is that according to Defra (2017) a fifth of lettuces and a tenth of strawberries are left to rot on farms each year .10,000 tonnes of strawberries, worth £24m, and 38,000 tonnes of lettuces, worth £7m, were wasted in 2015, becaese supermarkets rejected them as not being uniform and being too ugly.The equivalent to the daily needs of 4.4m people.
Don't let facts get in the way of a liberal knee jerk.
 
Maybe they were fed up of having to live in on site caravans and earning a pittance.

Other people picking cabbages for less than minimum wage, crammed ten to a one bedroom house... it's what being a real European is really about. *ode to joy starts playing*

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Typical Project Fear Guardain article imo . One blueberry supplier says they are moving to China and anectodal claims that fruit and veg are being left to rot in the ground because of labour shortages. The truth is that according to Defra (2017) a fifth of lettuces and a tenth of strawberries are left to rot on farms each year .10,000 tonnes of strawberries, worth £24m, and 38,000 tonnes of lettuces, worth £7m, were wasted in 2015, becaese supermarkets rejected them as not being uniform and being too ugly.The equivalent to the daily needs of 4.4m people.
That’s terrible but it’s a separate issue from the figures in that report about lack of people to fill the jobs isnt it?
 
It’s still campsites & daily ‘productivity targets’ and national living wage, do you think brexit will change that?
Well down in Sussex the farmers are having to offer more to get labour in as are building firms. Would you leave your home and travel hundreds of miles away from your family to pick fruit and live in a caravan for next to fuck all ?
 
Well down in Sussex the farmers are having to offer more to get labour in as are building firms. Would you leave your home and travel hundreds of miles away from your family to pick fruit and live in a caravan for next to fuck all ?
Are you saying that Brexit will mean improved pay and conditions for fruit pickers instead of the production moving elsewhere to keep the supermarkets happy? I don’t see it myself but hope you’re right.
 
bimble would you leave your home and family to work abroad for a pittance whilst living in a caravan ( on site)
No. What is the relevance of this? Because I wouldn’t do the job under current conditions you think the jobs conditions will improve because of Brexit so that it will become one we’d all want to do?
 
So you are one of those lazy english people the guardian rants about :(
What is the relevance of this? Because I wouldn’t do the job under current conditions you think the jobs conditions will improve because of Brexit so that it will become one we’d all want to do?
Why should anyone else then ?
 
No. What is the relevance of this? Because I wouldn’t do the job under current conditions you think the jobs conditions will improve because of Brexit so that it will become one we’d all want to do?
Apparently a Tory Brexit will completely stop people working in such conditions, so not supporting it means you are in favour of them...
 
Why should anyone else then ?
What has this got to do with Brexit?
Why ‘should’ anyone be working for £1 a day in a sweatshop in Bangladesh to produce cheap clothes for us to buy in primark?
They shouldn’t but they are.
You think Brexit will help reduce inequality across the EU so that nobody in Romania / Bulgaria will feel the need to travel far from their families to richer countries for seasonal jobs that I wouldn’t do?
 
sealion said 'down in sussex' things are on the up already, if we brexit hard enough maybe minimum wage insecure jobs will become a thing of the past.
Don't misquote me. I said no such thing and you are shit stirrer and a poor one to boot.

Well down in Sussex the farmers are having to offer more to get labour in as are building firms. Is what i said. I said nothing of things being on the up already.
 
I honestly don't care about the personal insults so give them a rest maybe.
You do think though that Brexit will be a good thing for wages and working conditions in general? That’s what I think you’ve been arguing all day. :confused:
 
I don't care for you twisting things nor your sly, shiity, little veiled digs about people who voted leave.
:rolleyes:I was trying to get you to explain your position , why you think Brexit will make things better in the fruit picking industry for instance, not having a dig at ‘people who voted leave’ who did so for loads of different reasons. But never mind.
 
:rolleyes:I was trying to get you to explain your position , why you think Brexit will make things better in the fruit picking industry for instance, not having a dig at ‘people who voted leave’ who did so for loads of different reasons. But never mind.
You dumped this Is Brexit actually going to happen? here earlier. I told you farmers and builders are now having to offer more money to get in labour. So i have given you an example, but you are still chipping away and bringing up sweat shops in Bangladesh when we are discussing the eu.
 
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