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Is Brexit actually going to happen?

Will we have a brexit?


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Other people picking cabbages for less than minimum wage, crammed ten to a one bedroom house... it's what being a real European is really about. *ode to joy starts playing*

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Paying less than minimum wage and substandard housing is about enforcement, not where migrants come from. Similar conditions are experienced by restaurant workers from the rest of the world. Brexit campaigners like Priti Patel were clear that they wished certain interests, like the restaurant trade to be able to get cheap workers for curry houses as people in the UK won’t do it. Where will they live? In a nice flat or someone’s converted shed?

Brexit changes nothing If the will to stop exploitation isn’t there. Pretty clear where JRM, Boris etc would stand on it.
 
Paying less than minimum wage and substandard housing is about enforcement, not where migrants come from. Similar conditions are experienced by restaurant workers from the rest of the world. Brexit campaigners like Priti Patel were clear that they wished certain interests, like the restaurant trade to be able to get cheap workers for curry houses as people in the UK won’t do it. Where will they live? In a nice flat or someone’s converted shed?

Brexit changes nothing If the will to stop exploitation isn’t there. Pretty clear where JRM, Boris etc would stand on it.

Staying in the EU will change nothing in regards to enforcement, as well.
 
In the fourth largest economy in the world even hospitals in London were relying on student nurses to make up the numbers when they should be there to shadow people and learn. Now it's shrunk to the fifth we've to look to economic growth to solve our problems? What shite. Would be just as useful to tell us how many cans of Tyskie or bottles of Moray Cup it might buy us. Maths is fun :cool:
 
The problem with this (which I expect is the work of a remain liberal), just like any far-stretched counterclaims by the leave right, is that we all know damn well that even if we stayed in the EU, then this money wouldn't be getting spent on nurses, hospitals and everything else it lists.

The money issue is transparent, albeit you might not like.

It’s like tax in London. Raises huge cash, pays out much more to the country, than it notionally gets back. But London would be fucked if drew up the drawbridge.

To the EU. Poorer countries, eg Poland, Greece are cash benefactors. Richer nations (us, France, Germany) pay more in.

One can argue whether this is right. But do think about it.
 
It's like I couldn't have possibly given a lot of thought about this, from a socialist, pro-worker (inc. EU) perspective which might offer some marginals gains over capital, whilst liberals like you went down the 'thicko racist leaver' insinuation angle and offered not one bit of analysis. And now you've got the cheek to 'ask' me to 'think about it'? Nah sorry, off you fuck paolo.
 
It's like I couldn't have possibly given a lot of thought about this, from a socialist, pro-worker (inc. EU) perspective which might offer some marginals gains over capital, whilst liberals like you went down the 'thicko racist leaver' insinuation angle and offered not one bit of analysis. Nah sorry, off you fuck paolo.

You don’t know me.

Actually to be fair I’d say “we” (the regulars here) have a good tone. We’re massively opposed but most of us avoid the cheap shots. We’ll argue rational, ideology, poke holes in each other, but I think the thicko racist stuff (I hope) is long gone.
 
In a recent story, May apparently challenges Merkel. Angela asked Theresa what she wanted. May said “Make me an offer”. Merkel said “No, you’re leaving, make *me* an offer” and this went round and round.

I’m beginning to wonder why the EU had this referendum in the first place. *

(* Stolen Line from the rightwing/leftwing biased BBC.)
 
You don’t know me.

We don't need to - you're not unique or special.

Actually to be fair I’d say “we” (the regulars here) have a good tone. We’re massively opposed but most of us avoid the cheap shots. We’ll argue rational, ideology, poke holes in each other, but I think the thicko racist stuff (I hope) is long gone.

:D

Never underestimate the ability of lieing racist shitbag liberals to *genuinely* believe they're the good guys.
 
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