Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Yes there is. It's fucking idiotic, frankly.

*I don't like this splinter in my toe so I'm going to ram it deep into my retina instead*

I’m alright Jack.

The correct analogy is “I have lung cancer, I’ll swap it for pancreatic cancer if it causes grief for the cunts who gave me cancer in the first place.”

 

[sleaterkinney]

tbh if people had known on 23/6/16 that boris johnson, michael gove, theresa may and david davis would have the posts they do today the vote to remain would have been something like 70/30 in favour of remain.

Johnson and Gove were at the front of the Leave campaign.

 

[Pickman's model]

Johnson and Gove were at the front of the Leave campaign.

Yeh I know. So?

 

[sleaterkinney]

Yeh I know. So?

So why wouldn't you think they would have prominent roles?. Both were running for PM afterwards.

 

[Pickman's model]

So why wouldn't you think they would have prominent roles?. Both were running for PM afterwards.

Were they? Check your memory. At what point did Johnson announce his candidature for leader of the tory party?

 

[sleaterkinney]

Were they? Check your memory. At what point did Johnson announce his candidature for leader of the tory party?

It was his before Gove knifed him in the back.

 

[Pickman's model]

It was his before Gove knifed him in the back.

when did Johnson run for pm as you said a minute back?

 

[sleaterkinney]

when did Johnson run for pm as you said a minute back?

Conservative Party (UK) leadership election, 2016 - Wikipedia

 

[Pickman's model]

So why wouldn't you think they would have prominent roles?. Both were running for PM afterwards.

Anyway being as johnson's a famous xenophobe and liar it's a great surprise anyone would let him preside over the foreign office

 

[Pickman's model]

Conservative Party (UK) leadership election, 2016 - Wikipedia

So thank you for confirming he didn't run

 

[sleaterkinney]

So thank you for confirming he didn't run

He announced he would seek the leadership.



(This is a fun friday night, isn't it?)

 

[Corax]

tbh if people had known on 23/6/16 that boris johnson, michael gove, theresa may and david davis would have the posts they do today the vote to remain would have been something like 70/30 in favour of remain.

Or in fact, if they'd known what a leave Britain would mean. Which we still don't...

 

[Pickman's model]

He announced he would seek the leadership.



(This is a fun friday night, isn't it?)

Yes. And like so many others his name never appeared on a ballot

 

[Santino]

Yes. And like so many others his name never appeared on a ballot

Good to see you polishing your pedant's credentials.

 

[Pickman's model]

Good to see you polishing your pedant's credentials.

So it's your contention bj ran. Anything to support it?

 

[DexterTCN]

£1 = $1.40-ish right now. That's well up on it's immediate post-referendum position, which was about £1 = $1.20. In fact, it's back broadly to its position just before the referendum.

Well yeah but the dollar's weak just now but never mind.

A 6% growth (or loss) in a month for a currency isn't crazy unusual but I'm not going to argue the point on something so high variance. Just because the US isn't doing well is no reason for us to feel better.

The spike probably means something but it's no more comforting than when a diner smiles and points at a lobster in a tank.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Or in fact, if they'd known what a leave Britain would mean. Which we still don't...

So how do you know whether we'd have voted for it or not if we don't even like know the thing that would have had the biggest influence on our vote? Anyway this is playground stuff, nobody knows what would have happened either way, in other news the brahan seer spoke a lot of shite.

 

[kabbes]

Well yeah but the dollar's weak just now but never mind.

A 6% growth (or loss) in a month for a currency isn't crazy unusual but I'm not going to argue the point on something so high variance. Just because the US isn't doing well is no reason for us to feel better.

The spike probably means something but it's no more comforting than when a diner smiles and points at a lobster in a tank.

The dollar is *quite* an important comparator when you are talking about whether a currency is strong or weak. You may have seen the US economy cropping up as an influence here and there.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

None of it is strong, it's a catastrophe waiting to happen! Don't any of you guys get drunk in Vegas you'll be finished!

 

[Corax]

Plus to counteract all the shite about immigrunts ruining our country, which had fuck all to do with the EU, or the vote, but which was hijacked by the media and politicians just wanting to be the nasty cunts they already are.

I still can't get my head around why the referendum happened in the first place? Without going all tin foil hatted about it, who the fuck has benefitted or was supposed to benefit from it? What was the motive?

The tories. That promise won them a lot of swing votes, and quite possibly made the difference that kept them in power last time round.

My brother pointed out a major effect that Brexit will have earlier. Vets in abattoirs. No vet from the this country qualifies thinking that they really want to slaughter animals, and there's a shortage of them in the UK so they do't need to do that job. Every abattoir has to have a vet, so almost all of then are from Eastern Europe.

 

[Corax]

It’s fake, ffs

Not 'fake' exactly, but it turns out it's a parody account. Sadly.

There's plenty of genuine ones in a similar vein though.

 

[kabbes]

Not 'fake' exactly, but it turns out it's a parody account. Sadly.

There's plenty of genuine ones in a similar vein though.

Parody is fake. That’s the point.

And no there aren’t. Not like that.

 

[butchersapron]

Parody is fake. That’s the point.

And no there aren’t. Not like that.

But they *are* like that.

 

[butchersapron]

People like corax i mean.

 

[Corax]

How does staying in the EU enable any of that?

Lots of it is either subtle power, or so patently obvious that I'm sure you don't actually need the likes of me to explain it to you.

One clear one is the swing to the right in member states. The EU has already threatened Hungary (I think - might have the country wrong) with withdrawing voting rights, or even funding, should they continue their rightwards lurch. As a major power within the EU we had the power to influence such actions. Now, we don't.

 

[The39thStep]

Lots of it is either subtle power, or so patently obvious that I'm sure you don't actually need the likes of me to explain it to you.

One clear one is the swing to the right in member states. The EU has already threatened Hungary (I think - might have the country wrong) with withdrawing voting rights, or even funding, should they continue their rightwards lurch. As a major power within the EU we had the power to influence such actions. Now, we don't.

Whats driving this swing to the right ?

 

[Pickman's model]

Lots of it is either subtle power, or so patently obvious that I'm sure you don't actually need the likes of me to explain it to you.

One clear one is the swing to the right in member states. The EU has already threatened Hungary (I think - might have the country wrong) with withdrawing voting rights, or even funding, should they continue their rightwards lurch. As a major power within the EU we had the power to influence such actions. Now, we don't.

Thus would be the rightwards drift that started what four years ago? The eu ain't going to do shit.

 

[Santino]

So it's your contention bj ran.

No.

 

[Raheem]

My brother pointed out a major effect that Brexit will have earlier. Vets in abattoirs. No vet from the this country qualifies thinking that they really want to slaughter animals, and there's a shortage of them in the UK so they do't need to do that job. Every abattoir has to have a vet, so almost all of then are from Eastern Europe.

Thing is Brexit is not going to mean we kick out anyone who's from Eastern Europe, or stop absolutely anyone new from coming. So slaughtering, building etc are not going to automatically grind to a halt, although pay for jobs typically done by EU citizens will probably have to go up in a lot of cases.

 

[Corax]

And no there aren’t. Not like that.

I'll facetiously direct you towards Farage's twitter account.

People like corax i mean.

Not just "like" - they adore me.