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the EU wishes to use us as an example to scare other European countries from leaving the EU,
The EU *is* other countries.
the EU wishes to use us as an example to scare other European countries from leaving the EU,
Hell *is* other peopleThe EU *is* other countries.
If a woman asks to divorce her husband is she entitled to complain if he's being a prick about it?Remainers get called remoaners. But there seem to be a lot who supported Brexit who are now moaning that the EU is not being nice to us. Shut up, it's what you voted for.
If a woman asks to divorce her husband is she entitled to complain if he's being a prick about it?
You apply for a divorce - so ask is more appropriate. Your application can actually be turned down!Tells, not asks.
You apply for a divorce - so ask is more appropriate. Your application can actually be turned down!
The remainers are still moaning and are spending big money trying to overturn the result. Shut up it's called democracy.
Here:Remainers get called remoaners. But there seem to be a lot who supported Brexit who are now moaning that the EU is not being nice to us. Shut up, it's what you voted for.
You could get a load of venture capitalists, hedge fund managers and a ex prime minister/ murderer to try and change a democratic vote. Oh wait a minute,,,you are absolutely right. the people have spoken and that's the end of it. i will ask a moderator to close the thread.
I get the logic, but it is still delusional. Yes, they will play hard ball to try and either force us to back off from Brexit or punish us to make an example should we leave. I get that the EU wishes to use us as an example to scare other European countries from leaving the EU, however if they go down this route it will blowback in their faces, and the blowback has the potential to be far more radical and even unsavoury than anything we have so far witnessed. Should the EU go down this route, it will simply confirm to anyone left who still doubts the authoritarian and undemocratic nature of the EU that the EU is beyond any possibility of reform and will never change its ways. Indeed the EU's solution to any problem is more integration, more EU, even when those problems are caused by the EU itself. If the EU elites think that such a course will not have consequences and if they think that voters won't opt to punish them by voting for radical parties when they have elections, then the EU elites are beyond delusional. That said, you may be right and they still go for such a poor choice, their funeral if they do.
Any political party or movement that works to stop Brexit can kiss it's political popularity and relevance goodbye. They will, if they are lucky, become as small and as inconsequential as the Lib Dems. Even amongst those who voted Remain during the referendum, only a minority back the 'Stop Brexit' position.
You could get a load of venture capitalists, hedge fund managers and a ex prime minister/ murderer to try and change a democratic vote. Oh wait a minute,,,
Corbyn wants out, is he a right wing nationalist in your book as well ?yawn - or you could get the daily mail, a load of right wing nationalists and the uber freidmanites of the tory party to push for the UK to exit ASAP on the most extreme terms.
Thats a given and hardly breaking news.Or how about recognising that the leading forces on both sides of the issue are a bunch of utter cunts?
Corbyn wants out, is he a right wing nationalist in your book as well ?
Thats a given and hardly breaking news.
That means sweet fa and i never stated he voted out. What has he said about the eu ? He's been scathing of them.Would that be the same Jeremy Corbyn who voted and campaigned for remain
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Before the poster claimed that the EU were non ideological and that all this was process not ideology.
He now reverses this but cannot term it in any other way than 'not being nice'- this you see is to infantalise complaints. All of a sudden its 'well, what did you expect' said with a satisfied smirk. So we see a complete reversal of your earlier position but rather rather than a sober analysis about why you might have been wrong we get this. Still, remainers we're wrong about the vote, the reasons for the vote, the effects it would have on the domestic political landscape and now, haltingly they admit they we're wrong about the EU being a benign non political entity![]()
I don't think anyone's said that the EU's people handling Brexit are non-ideological, or "implacably fair", are they?
The EU's people are doing what anyone could expect - negotiating in the interests of the EU.
Its in every word of discussion about these ongoing negotiations. You will now of course deny this. The fact that its taken as non-ideological is why it isn't mentioned. Why would you? This is all perfectly normal.
As was said by you, you nutter! Not me.as was said at the time. Still, you'll claim to mean whatever suits you this week. Wriggle as you like.
That means sweet fa and i never stated he voted out. What has he said about the eu ? He's been scathing of them.
I thought he'd made it clear that he wants the result of the referendum to be respected and that this means leaving. In that sense he does 'want out' surely?you said he "wants out". I dont see any evidence of that. Hes opposed to large parts of the EU program but - like lots of people - voted remain because of the likely negative consequences of leaving
you said he "wants out". I dont see any evidence of that. Hes opposed to large parts of the EU program but - like lots of people - voted remain because of the likely negative consequences of leaving
He's opposed membership for decades and he's heavily influenced by the Tribuite/CP British Road to Socialism stuff, of course he doesn't want to be in the EU.
I thought he'd made it clear that he wants the result of the referendum is to be respected and that this means leaving. In that sense he does 'want out' surely?
If you’re correct he is either a liar or a hypocrite.
it was decided at conference that labour would be pro-remain. Regardless of his own opinions, corbyn thusly reflected that. It was mentioned at the time that his support seemed less than full throated! libs were complaining some went as far to mutter darkly in the groan about how his half heartedness cost us dearly etcIf you’re correct he is either a liar or a hypocrite.
An mp being a liar and hypocrite. That would never ever happen would it ?If you’re correct he is either a liar or a hypocrite.