Is America burning? (Black Lives Matter protests, civil unrest and riots 2020)

[Ax^]

Fired within seconds - more like a nano second. Driver agencies who have unionised have been quickly dispatched out of work by Amazon.

If BLM formed a union I’d join and I reckon they’d be a force to reckon with compared to current unions who don’t stand a chance against Amazon.

hmm *cross thread beef *

Interesting to hear London Antifascists are middle class left as sure I’ve read reports claiming the Seattle CHAZ mob are made up with trust fund privileged white kids. Seems to be a correlation occurring.

of course you would

 

[Pickman's model]

Fired within seconds - more like a nano second. Driver agencies who have unionised have been quickly dispatched out of work by Amazon.

If BLM formed a union I’d join and I reckon they’d be a force to reckon with compared to current unions who don’t stand a chance against Amazon.

So you're saying you've all the backbone of a de-spined slug

 

[existentialist]

Disclaimer was intended to stop your kind of off topic reaction tbh.

Failing that - see my edit.

The disclaimer shouldn't have been NECESSARY.

And, actually, it wasn't - with your track record on sneaking nasty RW sources into the debate, there was bound to be the stink of shit about what you posted...just as it turned out to be.

 

[existentialist]

No amount of insurance will deal with the mass unemployment the rioters have caused.

Oh, get over yourself - this is a blatant attempt to try and recruit support for your cause without a rebel.

The bottom line in this whole thing is...if the State hadn't, continually and consistently, treated people like shit to the point that these protests happened, and then - continually and consistently - treated protesters, peaceful and otherwise, with the most bestial of violence, then the comparatively muted violence of some protesters would never have arisen.

You don't stand there stirring the hornets' nest, and then get to bleat, in feigned wide-eyed innocence, about how the hornets are stinging people.

 

[existentialist]

Some say to put him on ignore, but why let that shit go unchallenged?

And some say he masturbates to pictures of goats in gimp masks. All we know is...

 

[editor]

Love this stylish fan

(from Daily Fail website)

 

[DaveCinzano]

Meanwhile, in Portland

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Meanwhile, in Portland

I've seen that a lot on Twitter but despite the guy's admirable endurance, that's going to hurt tomorrow. You can be big and muscular and not show pain but you're still made of meat.

 

[DaveCinzano]

I've seen that a lot on Twitter but despite the guy's admirable endurance, that's going to hurt tomorrow. You can be big and muscular and not show pain but you're still made of meat.

Broken fingers is what I'm reading

 

[Serge Forward]

Marty1. .... a shit troll.

A very good troll, I'd say. He's managed to hang on here for quite a, pushing far right shite and getting away with it, only occasionally getting his knuckles rapped. I've said it before about Marty1... that cunt's a dick

 

[Streathamite]

[/QUOTE]

An American celebrity, Nick Cannon, has spouted the usual anti semitic crap on his podcast, adding a lot more besides.

He apologised, but got a big backlash for apologising from some black people who stated he told the truth, including some leading BLM fellows.

Its unfortunate as some Jewish blm supporters now feel a bit betrayed, it seems.

Its difficult to see how much his comments are supported in the black community, as going by Twitter its a fair few, but Twitter does obvs attract the cunts of the world

He seemed to be spouting a hybrid of Louis Farrakhan NOI shit combined with Black Hebrew Israelite

Nick Cannon Calls Jewish & White People 'The True Savages'

Gettyimages | Rodin Eckenroth Nick Cannon should gear up for some backlash. The “America’s Got Talent” host and ex to singer Mariah Carey has made racist and antisemitic remarks on his “Cannon’s Class” podcast. The June 30 episode now making headlines saw Cannon, 39, refer to white people and...

theblast.com

Jesus, that is beyond depressing. It's heartbreaking

 

[krtek a houby]

Roger fucking Stone doing his bit for race relations

Roger Stone uses racial slur on black radio host's show

 

[existentialist]

Roger fucking Stone doing his bit for race relations

Roger Stone uses racial slur on black radio host's show

It's almost as if he doesn't realise what a complete and utter cunt he is.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Broken fingers is what I'm reading

yeah, they fucked his hand up

 

[two sheds]

Besides all the pain he'll no doubt have the medical expenses

 

[Streathamite]

How did you find that video marty? You're as transparent as they come.


How much longer to we have to put up with this shit?

Agreed - I reported his post after reading Flavour's post #42,182 and after I did a little sleuthing to verify

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

It's almost as if he doesn't realise what a complete and utter cunt he is.

Oh he knows. He's just proud of it.

 

[krtek a houby]

Disclaimer was intended to stop your kind of off topic reaction tbh.

Failing that - see my edit.

Oh yeah, your disclaimers and excuses are so very sincere.

how many more threads do you get to stink up with your brand of right wing faux concern?

and yes, am aware of the irony that replying to scum only contributes to further stinking up threads.

 

[Shechemite]

i had Slayer playing in my head when I read ‘plates, screws and/or pins await’.

yeah, they fucked his hand up

 

[Streathamite]

Fired within seconds - more like a nano second. Driver agencies who have unionised have been quickly dispatched out of work by Amazon.

If BLM formed a union I’d join and I reckon they’d be a force to reckon with compared to current unions who don’t stand a chance against Amazon.

If everybody throughout history had been as gutless as you, we wouldn't have any Trades Unions, anywhere.
You think the Capital class and the State ever welcomed them?

 

[little_legs]

What's stopping you?

White people always have and always will assume that black people should be the ones who have to save white lives.

 

[TomUS]

Oh, get over yourself - this is a blatant attempt to try and recruit support for your cause without a rebel.

The bottom line in this whole thing is...if the State hadn't, continually and consistently, treated people like shit to the point that these protests happened, and then - continually and consistently - treated protesters, peaceful and otherwise, with the most bestial of violence, then the comparatively muted violence of some protesters would never have arisen.

You don't stand there stirring the hornets' nest, and then get to bleat, in feigned wide-eyed innocence, about how the hornets are stinging people.

The extreme violence of many of the "protesters" would have happened no matter what. I've observed their behavior for years in this city. They simply want to figt and smash things for the sheer fun of it. Back during the protests in the lead up to the Iraq war they insertrd themselves into the legitamate peaceful protest march and smashed windows, blocked streets, and fought with the cops.

 

[Marty1]

So you're saying you've all the backbone of a de-spined slug

Speak for yourself hero slug.

Im saying I’d be fired in a nano second but would join a BLM Union in a heartbeat.

 

[ddraig]

Speak for yourself hero slug.

Im saying I’d be fired in a nano second but would join a BLM Union in a heartbeat.

Lying lousy liar

 

[existentialist]

The extreme violence of many of the "protesters" would have happened no matter what. I've observed their behavior for years in this city. They simply want to figt and smash things for the sheer fun of it. Back during the protests in the lead up to the Iraq war they insertrd themselves into the legitamate peaceful protest march and smashed windows, blocked streets, and fought with the cops.

There will always be a small hardcore of people who will be there for the trouble. They're often hard to distinguish from the overall group - and those who claim to be able to do so are generally wrong. But they form a wonderful excuse for the authoritarians to wade in, and - as they invariably do - haul in a whole bunch of innocent people and treat them as if they're the agents provocateurs that they have convinced themselves are rife with the group.

Those troublemakers will always exist. The problem really arises when there are protests for them to cloak themselves within. But that doesn't deligitimise the protests, and the inevitable cries of "well, the protesters should repudiate them" as as naive as the idea that they're somehow easily identifiable.

Take away the reason for the protests to happen, and you take away the opportunities for that tiny minority to operate with impunity. Go in heavy-handed, and all you do is to push a few more of the previously moderate protesters into hard-liners - you create the very thing you're trying to eliminate.

Crowd behaviour is a phenomenon - if you look at the behaviour of crowds (/mobs/protests) over the centuries, you'll see that it's remarkably consistent, because it's a product of mass human social behaviour - the moderates will always be in the majority, with levels of increasing extremism represented by ever-smaller proportions of the group. The trick is to balance your governance so that you don't end up with too many people being sufficiently pissed off to take to the streets, because once that happens, the pattern will inevitably re-emerge. For that to happen takes a failure of government. For a government to complain - as they inevitably do - that the protest, or even elements of it, are a product of some sudden capacity for lawlessness that has emerged from nowhere is like trying to blame gravity for the fact that the egg you dropped smashed when it hit the floor.

Anything else is pointlessly naive.

 

[Marty1]

There will always be a small hardcore of people who will be there for the trouble. They're often hard to distinguish from the overall group - and those who claim to be able to do so are generally wrong. But they form a wonderful excuse for the authoritarians to wade in, and - as they invariably do - haul in a whole bunch of innocent people and treat them as if they're the agents provocateurs that they have convinced themselves are rife with the group.

Those troublemakers will always exist. The problem really arises when there are protests for them to cloak themselves within. But that doesn't deligitimise the protests, and the inevitable cries of "well, the protesters should repudiate them" as as naive as the idea that they're somehow easily identifiable.

Take away the reason for the protests to happen, and you take away the opportunities for that tiny minority to operate with impunity. Go in heavy-handed, and all you do is to push a few more of the previously moderate protesters into hard-liners - you create the very thing you're trying to eliminate.

Crowd behaviour is a phenomenon - if you look at the behaviour of crowds (/mobs/protests) over the centuries, you'll see that it's remarkably consistent, because it's a product of mass human social behaviour - the moderates will always be in the majority, with levels of increasing extremism represented by ever-smaller proportions of the group. The trick is to balance your governance so that you don't end up with too many people being sufficiently pissed off to take to the streets, because once that happens, the pattern will inevitably re-emerge. For that to happen takes a failure of government. For a government to complain - as they inevitably do - that the protest, or even elements of it, are a product of some sudden capacity for lawlessness that has emerged from nowhere is like trying to blame gravity for the fact that the egg you dropped smashed when it hit the floor.

Anything else is pointlessly naive.

Correct - the professional provocateurs secreted themselves within peaceful BLM protests to cause rioting and have nothing to do with BLM - there’s plenty of video evidence to show genuine BLM protestors rebuking rioters and in some cases standing outside store fronts to guard premises from being attacked.

 

[bendeus]

He thinks he's flying under the radar by posting far right shit with a disclaimer. He's too fucking thick to realise every time he does that he's letting the dog's face mask slip because we all know the only way he'd know about that video and that channel is if he's into it.

Sooner it's a permaban the better, he's playing the mods for mugs now.

And yet here he is and here he continues. Certainly one of the most effective trolls we've had on here in ages. His true 'self' is no doubt laughing at us on Stormfront or whichever other nazi forum he's using to demonstrate our weakness.

 

[TomUS]

There will always be a small hardcore of people who will be there for the trouble. They're often hard to distinguish from the overall group - and those who claim to be able to do so are generally wrong. But they form a wonderful excuse for the authoritarians to wade in, and - as they invariably do - haul in a whole bunch of innocent people and treat them as if they're the agents provocateurs that they have convinced themselves are rife with the group.

Those troublemakers will always exist. The problem really arises when there are protests for them to cloak themselves within. But that doesn't deligitimise the protests, and the inevitable cries of "well, the protesters should repudiate them" as as naive as the idea that they're somehow easily identifiable.

Take away the reason for the protests to happen, and you take away the opportunities for that tiny minority to operate with impunity. Go in heavy-handed, and all you do is to push a few more of the previously moderate protesters into hard-liners - you create the very thing you're trying to eliminate.

Crowd behaviour is a phenomenon - if you look at the behaviour of crowds (/mobs/protests) over the centuries, you'll see that it's remarkably consistent, because it's a product of mass human social behaviour - the moderates will always be in the majority, with levels of increasing extremism represented by ever-smaller proportions of the group. The trick is to balance your governance so that you don't end up with too many people being sufficiently pissed off to take to the streets, because once that happens, the pattern will inevitably re-emerge. For that to happen takes a failure of government. For a government to complain - as they inevitably do - that the protest, or even elements of it, are a product of some sudden capacity for lawlessness that has emerged from nowhere is like trying to blame gravity for the fact that the egg you dropped smashed when it hit the floor.

Anything else is pointlessly naive.

Thanks for your explanation. I still find it difficult to suppress my rage against those who have done so much damage to so many.

 

[krtek a houby]

Correct - the professional provocateurs secreted themselves within peaceful BLM protests to cause rioting and have nothing to do with BLM - there’s plenty of video evidence to show genuine BLM protestors rebuking rioters and in some cases standing outside store fronts to guard premises from being attacked.

Genuine protesters don't riot, is it now?

 

[Pickman's model]

Speak for yourself hero slug.

Im saying I’d be fired in a nano second but would join a BLM Union in a heartbeat.

Yes, I know what you're saying. I don't think you understand what you're saying or you'd agree with my assessment.