Is America burning? (Black Lives Matter protests, civil unrest and riots 2020)

[RTWL]

Marty1. .... a shit troll.

 

[RTWL]

Double post. But it is a troll of no value .

 

[SpineyNorman]

Or you could stop linking to Dodgy shite in the first place

He thinks he's flying under the radar by posting far right shit with a disclaimer. He's too fucking thick to realise every time he does that he's letting the dog's face mask slip because we all know the only way he'd know about that video and that channel is if he's into it.

Sooner it's a permaban the better, he's playing the mods for mugs now.

 

[kabbes]

Living hear I can tell you that the vast majority of biuildings targeted have nothing to do with state control or profiteering. Just watch the video.

I think I’ll wait for a proper analysis of the pattern of behaviour, actually, rather than taking your word for it or looking at a sensationalist video. History shows time and time and time again that the reporting at the time of an event focuses on isolated incidents that are not representative of the actual systematic action.

 

[Ax^]

He thinks he's flying under the radar by posting far right shit with a disclaimer. He's too fucking thick to realise every time he does that he's letting the dog's face mask slip because we all know the only way he'd know about that video and that channel is if he's into it.

Sooner it's a permaban the better, he's playing the mods for mugs now.

aye but not sure why he allow to post on this thread when he was thread banned from the united kingdom BLM thread for posting ballocks about all the protester
be white middle class kids in both the UK and USA

 

[krtek a houby]

Some say to put him on ignore, but why let that shit go unchallenged?

Also, it fucks up so many threads.

Don't believe for a minute that he is unaware of the sites he promotes.

Or the trying to give Trump a fair deal schtick.

He's playing the long game, here.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Disclaimer was intended to stop your kind of off topic reaction tbh.

Failing that - see my edit.

For about the tenth time, just fuck off. Your choice of links is not off-topic. It is who and what you are.

Mods, you are way off the mark when you warn people for having a go at this prick.

 

[Ax^]

Linking to dodgy links but trying to excuse it with a disclaimer because you to lazy to search for the original video

someone get him away from this topic

 

[TomUS]

Have you never heard of insurance? If not, then you should not go into business until you educate yourself.

No amount of insurance will deal with the mass unemployment the rioters have caused.

 

[Ax^]

No amount of insurance will deal with the mass unemployment the rioters have caused.

believe Covid maybe a bigger cause for unemployment at this minute

 

[krtek a houby]

No amount of insurance will deal with the mass unemployment the rioters have caused.

Wtf?

Mass unemployment stems from the corruption of capitalism practiced by the Trump junta (and predecessors). It stems from the administration which has handled the covid crisis appallingly. It stems from the promotion of the elites and the sneering subjugation of the poorest.

The cops and Trump have exacerbated this .

It's been simmering away for decades. If not more...

 

[Mr.Bishie]

No amount of insurance will deal with the mass unemployment the rioters have caused.

Hopefully, all the unemployed will start rioting against the State.

 

[Flavour]

No amount of insurance will deal with the mass unemployment the rioters have caused.

Hahaha hahaha
That is actually pretty class
Rioters cause of unemployment
Not unemployment cause of riots
Fantastic

 

[platinumsage]

Hahaha hahaha
That is actually pretty class
Rioters cause of unemployment
Not unemployment cause of riots
Fantastic

It's pretty funny when people assume rioters are unemployed, that's for sure.

 

[TomUS]

Wtf?

Mass unemployment stems from the corruption of capitalism practiced by the Trump junta (and predecessors). It stems from the administration which has handled the covid crisis appallingly. It stems from the promotion of the elites and the sneering subjugation of the poorest.

The cops and Trump have exacerbated this .

It's been simmering away for decades. If not more...

Capitalism has nothing to do with this. And yes Trump has indeed handled the covid crisis appallingly. That's a reason for the violent protests to stop. They are harming the poorest the most. And they couldn't care less.

 

[Ax^]

Capitalism has nothing to do with this. And yes Trump has indeed handled the covid crisis appallingly. That's a reason for the violent protests to stop. They are harming the poorest the most. And they couldn't care less.

You might need to give this a watch

 

[Marty1]

Capitalism has nothing to do with this. And yes Trump has indeed handled the covid crisis appallingly. That's a reason for the violent protests to stop. They are harming the poorest the most. And they couldn't care less.

And in the process perhaps turning voters away from the Democrats towards the Republicans.

Interesting article from 2015:

New Study Shows Riots Make America Conservative

Nonviolent protests work. Violent protests cause a backlash.

nymag.com

The direct costs of violent protests are fairly self-evident. People who may not have anything to do with the underlying grievances get injured or killed, their livelihoods are impaired, the communities in which the rioting takes place suffer property damage that can linger for decades, and the inevitable police response creates new dangers for innocent bystanders. The pro-rioting (or anti-anti-rioting) argument portrays this as the necessary price of worthwhile social change. Rioting can generate attention among people who might otherwise ignore the underlying conditions that give rise to it.

Wasow finds that nonviolent civil-rights protests did not trigger a national backlash, but that violent protests and looting did. The physical damage inflicted upon poor urban neighborhoods by rioting does not have the compensating virtue of easing the way for more progressive policies; instead, it compounds the damage by promoting a regressive backlash.

I think there’s plenty of people who support BLM but not the violence, rioting and looting. I don’t understand why some conflate criticising the latter as somehow criticising BLM as a whole.

 

[kabbes]

Capitalism has nothing to do with this? What, you think that the entire basis of society is an irrelevance to mass social action?

 

[Pickman's model]

And I’m the process perhaps turning voters away from the Democrats towards the Republicans.

A bold boast

 

[Ax^]

And I’m the process perhaps turning voters away from the Democrats towards the Republicans.

Just for the Record TomUS

this disingenuous cunt is banned from almost every thread mentioning Trump because he is a maga hat wearing fash twat

and he steals the faces of dogs

 

[Pickman's model]

I think there’s plenty of people who support BLM but not the violence, rioting and looting.

they're called liberals

 

[Pickman's model]

Just for the Record TomUS

this disingenuous cunt is banned from almost every thread mentioning Trump because he is a maga hat wearing fash twat

and he eats the faeces of dogs

c4u

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Capitalism has nothing to do with this. And yes Trump has indeed handled the covid crisis appallingly. That's a reason for the violent protests to stop. They are harming the poorest the most. And they couldn't care less.

If you think that economics has nothing to do with this, you haven't been paying attention. It's not just unemployment. Its employment at such low pay levels that you can work a full-time job and still not be able to keep a roof over your head. If you have children, you can't afford to feed them properly. Or, if you or your kids suffer with a medical condition you can't afford to go to the doctor or have to ration medicine. I make a lower-middle class wage and I've had to ration medicine (or get an animal equivalent from a agricultural supply supply store). Watching people you love and care about suffer because there's no way for you to work enough hours to provide for them, will absolutely radicalize most people. Hell, I didn't pay proper attention until I had a friend die because he couldn't get treatment for his cancer, despite running to every charity available to get him treatment.

I'm sorry that these protests have upset your life. We had about 10 days of protest here, including a riot just six blocks from my house. There's were several days of riots at the city/county building, about a mile away. It was a little unsettling. Since then, I've walked around and looked at the damage. At first glance I thought it wasn't rationally related to the goals of the protest, then I noticed that it was mostly payday loan businesses, pawn shops, bail bondsmen, financial companies, law offices/lobbyist's offices, Republican party offices, etc. Most of the places that took damage were businesses that prey on the misery of others.

If you genuinely worry about the poor, try to find something constructive to do about it. Volunteer at a food bank, or start your own food distribution system as a friend of mine did by building "Little Free Pantries." Its a tiny little thing against all of the need out there, but at least you'd be contributing something toward making it better.

BTW, you do understand that there's a few "violent anarchist thugs" on this board?

 

[teqniq]

No amount of insurance will deal with the mass unemployment the rioters have caused.

Lol this pales into insignificance compared to the mass unemployment caused by the Corona virus. 0/10 must try harder.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Lol this pales into insignificance compared to the mass unemployment caused by the Corona virus. 0/10 must try harder.

And that will probably pale in significance to the crash that's coming if the Fed keeps printing trillions of dollars at the rate they've been doing.

 

[Marty1]

If you think that economics has nothing to do with this, you haven't been paying attention. It's not just unemployment. Its employment at such low pay levels that you can work a full-time job and still not be able to keep a roof over your head. If you have children, you can't afford to feed them properly. Or, if you or your kids suffer with a medical condition you can't afford to go to the doctor or have to ration medicine. I make a lower-middle class wage and I've had to ration medicine (or get an animal equivalent from a agricultural supply supply store). Watching people you love and care about suffer because there's no way for you to work enough hours to provide for them, will absolutely radicalize most people. Hell, I didn't pay proper attention until I had a friend die because he couldn't get treatment for his cancer, despite running to every charity available to get him treatment.

I'm sorry that these protests have upset your life. We had about 10 days of protest here, including a riot just six blocks from my house. There's were several days of riots at the city/county building, about a mile away. It was a little unsettling. Since then, I've walked around and looked at the damage. At first glance I thought it wasn't rationally related to the goals of the protest, then I noticed that it was mostly payday loan businesses, pawn shops, bail bondsmen, financial companies, law offices/lobbyist's offices, Republican party offices, etc. Most of the places that took damage were businesses that prey on the misery of others.

If you genuinely worry about the poor, try to find something constructive to do about it. Volunteer at a food bank, or start your own food distribution system as a friend of mine did by building "Little Free Pantries." Its a tiny little thing against all of the need out there, but at least you'd be contributing something toward making it better.

BTW, you do understand that there's a few "violent anarchist thugs" on this board?

Ive said this before but BLM should set up a Union for workers - they’ve got the momentum for change - take on cunts like Bezos etc.

 

[Pickman's model]

Ive said this before but BLM should set up a Union for workers - they’ve got the momentum for change - take on cunts like Bezos etc.

Yeh for you it's always someone else should do the work. Why don't you set up a union for workers and take on cunts like bezos?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Ive said this before but BLM should set up a Union for workers - they’ve got the momentum for change - take on cunts like Bezos etc.

What's stopping you?

 

[Pickman's model]

Hahaha hahaha
That is actually pretty class
Rioters cause of unemployment
Not unemployment cause of riots
Fantastic

I don't think unemployment as such is the cause of most riots. More often there are riots when there is an attack on a community or a perceived injustice. If a sizeable proportion of those rioting are unemployed that's more down to where communities attacked by the state live, handsworth, watts, toxteth, the banlieus of paris, etc. Correlation famously not causation.

 

[Marty1]

Yeh for you it's always someone else should do the work. Why don't you set up a union for workers and take on cunts like bezos?

Fired within seconds - more like a nano second. Driver agencies who have unionised have been quickly dispatched out of work by Amazon.

If BLM formed a union I’d join and I reckon they’d be a force to reckon with compared to current unions who don’t stand a chance against Amazon.