Is America burning? (Black Lives Matter protests, civil unrest and riots 2020)

[Spymaster]

For sure. It's not going to stop them doing it though.

[Edited in case of idiocy.]

Good edit

 

[Chilli.s]

This is trending trying to calm down tempers.

Great speach.

 

[phillm]

Seeems like everything has got dumb in Trump's Amerika...

You can see the procurement spec being questioned - are you sure you wanr Secret on the badge ?

 

[NoXion]

The fuck is a Secret Service agent doing in a Minneapolis riot? Shouldn't he be like guarding the President or something? Or is he just a Walt?

 

[gosub]

The fuck is a Secret Service agent doing in a Minneapolis riot? Shouldn't he be like guarding the President or something? Or is he just a Walt?

The other half of their responsibility is fake bank notes, as they are an off shoot of the Treasury, but probably there a cos other federal agencies were thin on the ground

 

[polly]

This is very good, as ever, from Professor Cornel West. On protesting and not losing heart: 'try again, fail again. Try again, fail better'.

 

[phillm]

The fuck is a Secret Service agent doing in a Minneapolis riot? Shouldn't he be like guarding the President or something? Or is he just a Walt?

Oh it's outside the WH.

 

[Treacle Toes]

But as for the "incurably diseased nation" Mation...I understand the emotion but this writes a lot of good people off.

I don't believe you do.

 

[Numbers]

This is trending trying to calm down tempers.

Thanks for posting this.

 

[Treacle Toes]

 

[bimble]

This is trending trying to calm down tempers.

For sure very moving and eloquent but 'It is your duty not to burn your own house' down he says. Go and sit in your home, strategise, do this via the voting booth he says. But people don't burn down their own house do they they. I know looting and smashing stuff up isn't the answer but if the people he's appealing to really felt a sense of ownership of the city the way he is saying they should then this wouldnt be even happening would it.

 

[fucthest8]

For sure very moving and eloquent but 'It is your duty not to burn your own house' down he says. Go and sit in your home, strategise, do this via the voting booth he says. But people don't burn down their own house do they they. I know looting and smashing stuff up isn't the answer but if the people he's appealing to really felt a sense of ownership of the city the way he is saying they should then this wouldnt be even happening would it.

"Your own house" isn't literal

 

[planetgeli]

I don't believe you do.

Don’t be ridiculous. And don’t try and tell me what I think or feel.

 

[bimble]

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[bimble]

"Your own house" isn't literal

i know that!

 

[Treacle Toes]

He is referring to Atlanta's history as a city and specifically it's connection to the civil rights movement.

Atlanta - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Treacle Toes]

Don’t be ridiculous. And don’t try and tell me what I think or feel.

Like you did to Mation you mean?

I told you how I feel & what I believe btw.

Just so we are clear, I could not care less if you like that or not. You have your opinion and I have mine.

 

[treelover]

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Excellent doc on MLK and his difficulties as the civil rights movement splintered and some, Stokely Carmichael, rejected NVA etc, and advocated violence.


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The police were largely absent as anarchy ruled the streets. A police station car park was full of patrol cars with their lights turned on, but the rioters seemed to have free rein on the streets while we were there in the early hours of the morning.

George Floyd death: Chaos and rioting overshadows peaceful protesting in Minneapolis

One Minneapolis firm advertised that it was a 'black business', a plea to protesters not to loot or vandalise.

news.sky.com

btw, can people explain why the police, despite being in numbers stood aside while the looters attacked local shops, etc.

Maybe because they want the rest of america to see it burning and be horrified and terrified

 

[fucthest8]

i know that!

Okay, apologies, but it's also not even literal in the sense of the ownership of the city surely?
I took it as being both about Atlanta in the wider sense of its place in history per Ruti's point above but also businesses owned by black people and in black neighbourhoods - dont be indiscrimate. He acknowledges that they want to burn things down and says he feels the same, but he's trying to get people to think in wider terms I reckon.

 

[bimble]

Okay, apologies, but it's also not even literal in the sense of the ownership of the city surely?
I took it as being both about Atlanta in the wider sense of its place in history per Ruti's point above but also businesses owned by black people and in black neighbourhoods - dont be indiscrimate. He acknowledges that they want to burn things down and says he feels the same, but he's trying to get people to think in wider terms I reckon.

Yeah I think he was talking about Atlanta this particular city, which I didn't really get on first listen. He did keep saying to just vote for better representatives as the concrete thing to do though which is, you know, always an option.

On a lighter note, re indiscriminate, there’s a nice video around of protestors changing course and yelling at everyone to make sure nobody does any damage to a branch of Waffle House.

 

[polly]

Ways To Help

Ways To Help

blacklivesmatters.carrd.co

If anyone wants to donate to bail funds etc, here are some links.

 

[Spymaster]

On a lighter note, re indiscriminate, there’s a nice video around of protestors changing course and yelling at everyone to make sure nobody does any damage to a branch of Waffle House.

Di Martino’s cafe on Great Portland Street used to put out a sign every Mayday morning before the protests. “Family run business. Please don’t break our windows”, with arrows directing people to the nearest Starbucks and McDonalds.

As far as I know, they never got hit.

 

[teqniq]

Very articulate indeed:

 

[Mation]

Very articulate indeed:

Well she is certainly bang on and an engaging speaker. Articulate is the word white people often use when they're surprised a black person can string a sentence together, which I'm sure isn't what you meant!

 

[teqniq]

Heh. Yes when I chose to use that word I was aware that it could be misconstrued. You are however right. I meant it as is. She's a great public speaker.

 

[Treacle Toes]

A bit like having one's reasoning and opinions being dismissed as 'emotional' as if it's only 'emotion' informing our opinions. Condescending as fuck.

 

[existentialist]

A bit like having one's reasoning and opinions being dismissed as 'emotional' as if it's only 'emotion' informing our opinions. Condescending as fuck.

There should be a list of these "loaded" words somewhere. I could quite easily refer to someone who speaks well as "articulate", regardless of the colour of their skin, and intend absolutely no racist overtones whatsoever.

 

[Mation]

There should be a list of these "loaded" words somewhere. I could quite easily refer to someone who speaks well as "articulate", regardless of the colour of their skin, and intend absolutely no racist overtones whatsoever.

Does there need to be? We seem to have got through its use upthread without drama, and you're now aware of how this one is sometimes used. All good, no? Or do you want to go down a "can't say anything without being jumped on route"? Cause we could probably do without that, tbh.

 

[bimble]

It doesn’t explain where he said this but guardian reproducing the Presidents written reaction to last nights protest at the White House here.


professionally organised .

 

[Pickman's model]

Well she is certainly bang on and an engaging speaker. Articulate is the word white people often use when they're surprised a black person can string a sentence together, which I'm sure isn't what you meant!

Articulate is the word I use when I'm surprised a manager can string a sentence together.