Insurance company CEO assassinated in New York

[Yossarian]

There's no way I'd convict if I were on the jury. A clear case of self defense.

You can't see his face in the shooting video, maybe it was some other guy with a very similar jacket, shoes, gun, and manifesto - sorry prosecutors, you have failed to convince me beyond a reasonable doubt

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Murder is defined as unlawfully and unjustifiably killing a person. It could be argued that the killing was absolutely justified, in order to save the lives of others. It's definitely a defence I'd consider if I was on the jury.

A modern day version of the 'trolley problem' - do you kill one CEO of an American healthcare company, which has been under investigation for the inexplicable increase of its prior approval denial rate, in order to get the company to replace that CEO ans perhaps change its policies/denial rate, in order to save the lives of many people who are insured by that company?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

He's only been charged with second-degree murder so far - under New York law, a first-degree murder charge would require one of these aggravating factors:

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They might be able to make a terrorism allegation stick but not sure how hard prosecutors will push for it, if you're going to gun down a CEO, Manhattan might be one of the better jurisdictions to do so in

New York is a right wet-banket of a state and Manhattan these days feels like the absolute safest place in the whole of the US, everyone's too stoned to do shit, you could walk down 1st Ave in a suit made of Benjamins and no one would fucking touch ya. And then go and buy a bunch of THC rich gummies for Spymaster to munch on...

 

[Saul Goodman]

There's no way I'd convict if I were on the jury. A clear case of self defense.

I'd be doing my absolute best to convince the rest of the jury that his death was not only justifiable, but absolutely necessary. I'd be pulling out stats to show how many people died, needlessly, as a direct result of his actions.
Justifiable homicide isn't murder. It doesn't matter if the law says he's guilty, it matters what the jury says. Their decision is final. They can't be punished for it and the judge can't overrule a not guilty verdict. O.J. Simpson was a classic example.
As slim a chance as it might be, I'm holding out hope that the jury acquits him and sends a strong message to his successor.
The guy's a hero, in my book.

 

[weltweit]

This thread is too fast for me to keep up with it.

Lots of support for the killer on social media in the USA and the world.

 

[not a trot]

Luigi Mangione. Gotta be a hitman with a name like that.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The guy's a hero, in my book.

Yup.

Gunning down people in the street should never be acceptable. But doing what this cunt and his ilk have been up to for fucking decades is well beyond acceptable behaviour, fucking lightyears past it. Kill the fucking lot of 'em.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Pay-per-view the executions of all US healthcare bosses, the money raised can go towards the treatments for those denied.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Then get this cunt and drown him in a bowl of diarrhoea

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www.bbc.co.uk

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Pay-per-view the executions of all US healthcare bosses, the money raised can go towards the treatments for those denied.

Charlie Brooker's got the plot for the next Black Mirror.

 

[Petcha]

You can't see his face in the shooting video, maybe it was some other guy with a very similar jacket, shoes, gun, and manifesto - sorry prosecutors, you have failed to convince me beyond a reasonable doubt

It's fairly blatantly him. I mean he had a handwritten document on him naming the company specifically, 10k in cash, various fake IDsm an identical gun to the one used. But... finding 12 jurors who have not been fucked over by the insurance system, that's a different story.

 

[Yossarian]

I hope the McSnitch gets the $50,000 reward, then gets hit with a $60,000 medical bill insurance refuses to cover

 

[Petcha]

He's been kicking off on his way back into court. This is gonna be an entertaining trial.

Luigi Mangione suffered a violent meltdown as he arrived at court after being arrested for the murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

Mangione, 26, could be heard roaring about cops being 'completely out of touch' and 'insulting the intelligence of the American people' as he was bundled into court by a horde of sheriff's deputies.

 

[JimW]

I hope the McSnitch gets the $50,000 reward, then gets hit with a $60,000 medical bill insurance refuses to cover

They'll surely have to change jobs and have put their coworkers in the firing line.

 

[Yossarian]

He's been kicking off on his way back into court. This is gonna be an entertaining trial.

Doesn't seem like he's violently melting down or roaring in this video

 

[moochedit]

So, we all that he was an elite hitman and he got caught in McD's. We all thought he was the voice of proletarian revenge and he turns out to have been at some expensive public school.
(((Heroes with feet of clay))))

Apparently his cousin is a republican house member

 

[PTK]

It's fairly blatantly him. I mean he had a handwritten document on him naming the company specifically, 10k in cash, various fake IDsm an identical gun to the one used. But... finding 12 jurors who have not been fucked over by the insurance system, that's a different story.

He allegedly had those things.

 

[moochedit]

Video of him arriving in court here and he says something like "this is unjust and an insult to the intellegence of the american people" (hard to hear a few words)

Luigi Mangione updates: UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting suspect contests extradition to NY

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Doesn't seem like he's violently melting down or roaring in this video

Not his best look.

 

[SpookyFrank]

A modern day version of the 'trolley problem' - do you kill one CEO of an American healthcare company, which has been under investigation for the inexplicable increase of its prior approval denial rate, in order to get the company to replace that CEO ans perhaps change its policies/denial rate, in order to save the lives of many people who are insured by that company?

I doubt the new CEO will be any different. They'll just spend more of other people's money on close protection goons.

 

[emanymton]

I think people hoping for some kind of folk hero may end up disappointed. I think there is a pretty good chance this guy is going to be a total nob.

Guess we will see.

 

[Spymaster]

Not his best look.

Nobody looks great in Guantanamo orange, tbf.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Nobody looks great in Guantanamo orange, tbf.

Nobody looks good yelling like a maniac either.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Video of him arriving in court here and he says something like "this is unjust and an insult to the intellegence of the american people" (hard to hear a few words)

Luigi Mangione updates: UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting suspect contests extradition to NY

I heard it as:

This is clearly unjust and an insult to the intelligence of the American people, and lived experience

 

[Spymaster]

I think people hoping for some kind of folk hero may end up disappointed. I think there is a pretty good chance this guy is going to be a total nob.

I think he's almost certainly going to be some kind of maladjusted fuckwit.

He shot the shit out of someone in the street.

 

[emanymton]

I think he's almost certainly going to be some kind of maladjusted fuckwit.

He shot the shit out of someone in the street.

I mean that is the first big clue. Whatever we may think of the guy he shoot it's not a normal thing to do.

 

[Elpenor]

I think he's almost certainly going to be some kind of maladjusted fuckwit.

He shot the shit out of someone in the street.

It’s far more civilised, or to use your word, adjusted, instead to deny treatment to sick people in order to increase profits.

In the long run they will be dead anyway; like the little-mourned breadhead whose shit was shot in the street

 

[Spymaster]

It’s far more civilised, or to use your word, adjusted, instead to deny treatment to sick people in order to increase profits.

 

[Saul Goodman]

I think he's almost certainly going to be some kind of maladjusted fuckwit.

He shot the shit out of someone in the street.

There's little doubt as to his state of mental health. He's clearly unhinged.
But, and it's a big but... He's my kinda guy

 

[nogojones]

He allegedly had those things.

Yeah. I hope Petcha never sits on a jury I'm in front of