Industrial music and its relationship(??) to fascism

[Howl]

Yes let’s just change the subject now you’ve waltzed in and made an arse of yourself. FFS.

Fozzie Bear but really I appreciate that you thought I was young that made my day .

 

[Howl]

And gangland bosses attending their brothers funerals.

And Frank Sinatra in his Vegas period

 

[Howl]

which original question? the one about Lemmy and punks with swastikas?

I reckon people who briefly flirted with nazi iconography as kids were being daft but if there's no sustained interest I'm happy to write it off as youthful foolishness. Lemmy's massive collection of nazi memorabilia does make me think he was probably a bit dodge though, yeah.

Being dodgy in which way - If someone collects guns or porn does that make em a serial killer or sex addict ?

 

[Howl]

I like records and still buy them regularly, but I think they're mostly just for rich white old dudes now. I don't think I care too much about them going - they no longer serve the same community & cultural purpose they did even 10 years ago.

Well if they're rich or white they must be bad people then ...lol.

 

[Howl]

Left him bereft eh? Blimey, what a rotter.

Crowley's intetesting but certainly not a " Nice guy" - it's common knowledge he tortured both wives and although saying he was a practioner of " Free will" hardly lived up to that and died a penniless junkie . I find it amusing you can throw stones at others whilst using an image of a man that was hardly morally sound .

 

[killer b]

Being dodgy in which way - If someone collects guns or porn does that make em a serial killer or sex addict ?

Not necessarily, but I wouldnt want to be friends with them either.

 

[Howl]

Not necessarily, but I wouldnt want to be friends with them either.

Fair enough

 

[Howl]

The benefit of the doubt will only last so long you know.

Say what ?

 

[Howl]

Yes let’s just change the subject now you’ve waltzed in and made an arse of yourself. FFS.

Actually I danced the macerena and made a slightly drunken astute comment . But I cannot be mad at you as you fed my narcisstic quality by calling me young .

 

[Howl]

You may have mugged yourself pal, but you ain't mugging no one here. Wasting your time.

" Hold it down boy your heads getting blurred , you know you can't stop thinking of her , by all means you can vibe with this girl but just don't mug yourself - just don't mug yourself " - sorry your comment inspired me to lapse into that track , btw I make my own dough ~ no need to mug you or anyone else ~ but thank you for causing my memory to reload an old classic ( That's off "The Streets" first record for some of the older of you on here ).

 

[FuneralAddict]

Ive twice met Arland Bran and was very honoured when he gave me a self-recorded CD that contained several of his own compositions - for they are excellent! Arland is himself a wanderer - like Woden, whom he follows, so I'm never sure if I'll meet him again so may not share a mead horn with him again! If you like the new styles of Fashwave, Electronica and the more traditional neo-folk genre's you will enjoy his music - and by luck I found many of his songs online today. Please put some time aside from the hustle and bustle of modern life and take a moment to listen to some music that will speak to your Aryan Soul! Remember - his work is his own recordings and done on a home computer, not in an expensive studio. Below are some of my favourites - but you can find all his works -here-

That was the Cached version of the site

Could you possibly upload his songs somewhere?
Cannot find them online anywhere.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Could you possibly upload his songs somewhere?
Cannot find them online anywhere.

Welcome to the boards, FuneralAddict !

What specifically is it that attracts you to the music of failed synagogue arsonist Arland Bran?

 

[FuneralAddict]

Welcome to the boards, FuneralAddict !

What specifically is it that attracts you to the music of failed synagogue arsonist Arland Bran?

I'm just interested in morbid and dark subjects I guess
Probably started with the Sex Pistols making that record with Ronnie Biggs when I was a kid

 

[killer b]

I just love to explore the dark side of life, lads.

 

[nogojones]

Could you possibly upload his songs somewhere?
Cannot find them online anywhere.

This is the darkest one I can find

 

[rekil]

This is the darkest one I can find

Same brutal theme.

 

[andysays]

I'm just interested in morbid and dark subjects I guess
Probably started with the Sex Pistols making that record with Ronnie Biggs when I was a kid

Oh you silly thing...

 

[chilango]

This is the darkest one I can find

Same brutal theme.

FuneralAddict
Older material with a more traditional folk influence

 

[killer b]

FuneralAddict
Older material with a more traditional folk influence

some interesting comments on that vid: this one demonstrates how decades of unfair demonisation means the neo-folk fan has to hide their interests, even in their most intimate relationships.

 

[londonkid]

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Matthew Bower of Skullflower thinks COVID-19 is Gaia’s work:

 

[butchersapron]

Oh I just remembered that Cold Spring did a Merzbow / Sun Ra collaboration album which no doubt will be used by fanboys to suggest that they aren't racist. Bit weird doing a collaboration with someone who is dead though, it's not like you can ask them if they want to be on the same label as Troy Southgate and Sutcliffe Jugend...

I'm reading a book that's substantially a history and influence of US eugenics right now. It all centred on the (Carnegie funded) Eugenics Record Office, commonly known as Cold Spring. Might be nothing but we know these types like to lace their activities with oh so provocative hate-filled easter eggs.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I'm reading a book that's substantially a history and influence of US eugenics right now. It all centred on the (Carnegie funded) Eugenics Record Office, commonly known as Cold Spring. Might be nothing but we know these types like to lace their activities with oh so provocative hate-filled easter eggs.

That’s interesting. He wasn’t really fashy when he started the label - that came later. Might have been reading that stuff to be edgy though.

 

[Dictio Scansio]

Well, Cold Spring Harbor, for what it's worth; I grew up in New York State.
I actually found (and necroed) this thread looking for some articles about CS and its politics. I always gave the label the same sort of pass that I'd given the likes of Soleilmoon in the past - perhaps personally apolitical, but of a generation oblivious to notions of platforming and politics by association, and more likely to hold art, however problematic, as sacrosanct and above it all in some way. I was on an active mailing list with Cold Spring in the nineties, and releasing material by Grey Wolves and Mark Snow of "X Files" and "Millennium" fame (I wonder if that album ever came out) as well as Cold Meat Industry-adjacent acts like Consono seemed harmlessly eclectic and irreverent at the time (edit: I'm not lumping Mark Snow or Consono in with Grey Wolves, Prurient, et al - just noting that CS covered (and perhaps still covers) a lot of musical ground). A lot of time has passed; it's clear who gets to be irreverent and eclectic and who gets to reform and recant without consequence now. There were a lot of proto-4channers and Boogaloo bois in that scene.

I was pretty well into that musical scene once, and it's crazy to look back at the blind spots I'd regularly encounter. Misogyny was casual, cartoonish and pernicious. I don't know how many musos, writers, DJs etc I knew who decried Douglas P as a virulent neo-fascist but counted, say, Philip Best as a friend. Nativists, fascists both coded and overt, misogynists and school-shooting enthusiasts, and the labels and DJs giving them equal sunlight in the name of... I guess art? Doesn't seem like a very profitable enterprise.

I sometimes wish I'd just gotten into techno and psychedelic drugs, instead.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Welcome to the boards and to the fray, Dictio

 

[Dictio Scansio]

Thanks! I wish I'd found this site a long time ago.

 

[BristolEcho]

Well, Cold Spring Harbor, for what it's worth; I grew up in New York State.
I actually found (and necroed) this thread looking for some articles about CS and its politics. I always gave the label the same sort of pass that I'd given the likes of Soleilmoon in the past - perhaps personally apolitical, but of a generation oblivious to notions of platforming and politics by association, and more likely to hold art, however problematic, as sacrosanct and above it all in some way. I was on an active mailing list with Cold Spring in the nineties, and releasing material by Grey Wolves and Mark Snow of "X Files" and "Millennium" fame (I wonder if that album ever came out) as well as Cold Meat Industry-adjacent acts like Consono seemed harmlessly eclectic and irreverent at the time. A lot of time has passed; it's clear who gets to be irreverent and eclectic and who gets to reform and recant without consequence now. There were a lot of proto-4channers and Boogaloo bois in that scene.

I was pretty well into that musical scene once, and it's crazy to look back at the blind spots I'd regularly encounter. Misogyny was casual, cartoonish and pernicious. I don't know how many musos, writers, DJs etc I knew who decried Douglas P as a virulent neo-fascist but counted, say, Philip Best as a friend. Nativists, fascists both coded and overt, misogynists and school-shooting enthusiasts, and the labels and DJs giving them equal sunlight in the name of... I guess art? Doesn't seem like a very profitable enterprise.

I sometimes wish I'd just gotten into techno and psychedelic drugs, instead.

It's not to late.

Though has its issues too.

 

[Dictio Scansio]

It's not to late.

Though has its issues too.

I've made and played my share of techno since, but the other thing was just sweaty nausea and headaches.

 

[Orang Utan]

I read this interesting thread on Twitter and I think Dominick Fernow has been mentioned on here before:

 

[killer b]

I read this interesting thread on Twitter and I think Dominick Fernow has been mentioned on here before:

crikey. I thought he was just a bit of an edgelord.