I Got Banged In The Arse By SW Trains For £32

[Bungle73]

It's facts. I've provided numerous links to back up everything I've said and you have no answer to it. You, on the other hand just make sweeping assumptions about 'all tourists having a travel card' and that walking 0.3 miles - as verified by google maps and walkit.com - might be less preferable than using the assistance on hand by TFL staff and the extra support offered by taking the tube.

Your failure to comprehend why anyone would do this, or why a tourist may also unwittingly do this further demonstrates your ineptitude to look at life from any other perspective than your own fantasy revenue collection officer world.

Actually, what I fail to comprehend is why you persist with this quite frankly ridiculous argument.

And of course all tourists would have a Travelcard; why wouldn't they? Have you ever dealt with a tourist? The answer is "no" isn't it. On the Trip Advisor London forum every other question is asking about Oyster or Travelcards.

TBH it seems like you think that tourists and "disabled" people are as thick as two short planks. What was that about "living in fantasy world".........?

And Walkit.com told me 0.2 miles, but whatever it's definitely not the "3rd of a mile" you keep claiming. I also think you are lying about having walked it, because you don't seem to have any idea of the actual distance in reality, nor how short it is.

 

[cesare]

Emb to CX is all uphill to walk, too.

 

[neonwilderness]

 

[cesare]

And the only step free access to CX is from the front of the station on the Strand rather than any of the side entrances (extra distance)

 

[Bungle73]

Emb to CX is all uphill to walk, too.

And going on Tube means negotiating series of corridors, steps, escalators and a packed train.

And anyone, why would someone be staring their journey at Embankment (and only travelling as far as Charing Cross) station anyway? There's nothing there.

 

[Bungle73]

And the only step free access to CX is from the front of the station on the Strand rather than any of the side entrances (extra distance)

Um those Tube stations don't have step free access anyway.

 

[neonwilderness]

And anyone, why would someone be staring their journey at Embankment (and only travelling as far as Charing Cross) station anyway? There's nothing there.

They were getting off a ferry at Embankment to catch a train from Charing Cross?

 

[cesare]

And going on Tube means negotiating series of corridors, steps, escalators and a packed train.

And anyone, why would someone be staring their journey at Embankment (and only travelling as far as Charing Cross) station anyway? There's nothing there.

No-one said anything about only starting their journey from Embankment.

They might be going from Victoria to Trafalgar Square and switching from the District line to Bakerloo or Northern at Embankment to get to Charing Cross without realising that they might as well get off at Embankment and walk up.

 

[cesare]

Um those Tube stations don't have step free access anyway.

Um they have tube staff for assistance

 

[cesare]

Shall we do Bank/Monument next?

 

[existentialist]

Emb to CX is all uphill to walk, too.

NO IT'S NOT

 

[Bungle73]

They were getting off a ferry at Embankment to catch a train from Charing Cross?

And no Oyster Card.........?

No-one said anything about only starting their journey from Embankment.

Um, yes they did. That's what this whole argument is about. People who, for some reason, only want to travel between Embankment and Charing Cross

They might be going from Victoria to Trafalgar Square and switching from the District line to Bakerloo or Northern at Embankment to get to Charing Cross without realising that they might as well get off at Embankment and walk up.

Then the fare between the two stations has no relevance to them.

 

[cesare]

NO IT'S NOT

The few feet outside Emb station isn't, granted. (Flower seller entrance/exit)

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

And going on Tube means negotiating series of corridors, steps, escalators and a packed train.

And anyone, why would someone be staring their journey at Emabankment (and only travelling as far as Charing Cross) station anyway? There's nothing there.

Best shut the station then, Bungle says so.

By the way, "disabled" doesn't have to be written as "disabled", try without the "quotes". It makes you seem sneering, which is unusual for you.

 

[cesare]

Um, yes they did. That's what this whole argument is about. People who, for some reason, only want to travel between Embankment and Charing Cross

Where?

Then the fare between the two stations has no relevance to them.

Depends how they are paying.

 

[existentialist]

Your failure to comprehend why anyone would do this, or why a tourist may also unwittingly do this further demonstrates your ineptitude to look at life from any other perspective than your own fantasy revenue collection officer world.

I don't think Bungle's actually a revenue collection officer - that would require reserves of charm, tact, human decency and kindness that, almost absent as they are in that profession, are still far beyond anything he could muster, going by his performance on threads like this.

No, Bungle's revenue protection activities are, I suspect, confined to lining up an assortment of soft toys along his bed, putting his (stain proof) Revenue Protection Hat on, then walking along it going, "Tickets please...oh, Teddy, you seem to have got on a stop late, you stupid little shit, I'm going to have to FINE you now", before having to take time out to deal with the consequential stiffie and moving on to Golly.

 

[neonwilderness]

And no Oyster Card.........?

It's entirely possible, isn't it?

By the way, "disabled" doesn't have to be written as "disabled", try without the "quotes". It makes you seem sneering, which is unusual for you.

Maybe there should be some tests before "disabled" people are given any help at stations

 

[toggle]

The one being a cunt here is you because this argument is absolutely ridiculous. In fact it is so ridiculous I find it hard to believe I'm not being trolled here.


It says 0.2 for me. But either way it's not a long way

Then why are you coming out with load of cobblers?

oh, so acknowledgement that disability doesn't always follow a neat pattern that fits your argument is ridiculous?

if this is the kind of attitude that is prevalent in the transport industry, ti's no wonder that accessibility is treated with such contempt

 

[toggle]

Actually, what I fail to comprehend is why you persist with this quite frankly ridiculous argument.

And of course all tourists would have a Travelcard; why wouldn't they? Have you ever dealt with a tourist? The answer is "no" isn't it. On the Trip Advisor London forum every other question is asking about Oyster or Travelcards.

TBH it seems like you think that tourists and "disabled" people are as thick as two short planks. What was that about "living in fantasy world".........?

And Walkit.com told me 0.2 miles, but whatever it's definitely not the "3rd of a mile" you keep claiming. I also think you are lying about having walked it, because you don't seem to have any idea of the actual distance in reality, nor how short it is.

why the quote marks arround disabled?

 

[Bungle73]

Best shut the station then, Bungle says so.

Don't be so stupid.

By the way, "disabled" doesn't have to be written as "disabled", try without the "quotes". It makes you seem sneering, which is unusual for you.

It's not me being "sneering" it's that Skyscaper bloke who is using "disabled people" to prop up his ridiculous argument, and also seems to think they are stupid.

Where?

What do you mean "Where"? This argument is about the Single fare between Embankment and CHX. Keep up.

Depends how they are paying.

How they paying? You are making zero sense. If they are travelling from somewhere else they will already have a ticket to cover them from Embankment to CHX. How does that relate to the Single fare between those stations? It doesn't

 

[toggle]

Don't be so stupid.


It's not me being "sneering" it's that Skyscaper bloke who is using "disabled people" to prop up his ridiculous argument, and also seems to think they are stupid.

What do you mean "Where"? This argument is about the Single fare between Embankment and CHX. Keep up.


How they paying? You are making zero sense. If they are travelling from somewhere else they will already have a ticket to cover them from Embankment to CHX. How does that relate to the Single fare between those stations? It doesn't

so now scare quotes around disabled people. are they something to be scared of, or are you suggesting they don't exist?

 

[existentialist]

if this is the kind of attitude that is prevalent in the transport industry, ti's no wonder that accessibility is treated with such contempt

Pisstaking apart, I do doubt very much that Bungle has anything to do with the transport industry in any professional capacity.

 

[19sixtysix]

Shall we do Bank/Monument next?

Get thee to Dollis Hill

 

[existentialist]

Get thee to Dollis Hill

Mornington Crescent!

 

[toggle]

Pisstaking apart, I do doubt very much that Bungle has anything to do with the transport industry in any professional capacity.

he's claimed to.

I find it troubling that someone with this level of belligerence and ignorance might actually be working in a position that has any greater authority than loo cleaner. the thought that someone might actually be relying on him to be able to competently assess anything is scary.

 

[Bungle73]

why the quote marks arround disabled?

It's making a point. That SS doesn't know what he is talking about.

oh, so acknowledgement that disability doesn't always follow a neat pattern that fits your argument is ridiculous?

Um, where did I say that? I didn't

if this is the kind of attitude that is prevalent in the transport industry, ti's no wonder that accessibility is treated with such contempt

Um, what "attitude"?

 

[Bungle73]

he's claimed to.

Um, no I fucking haven't. Fuck off with your lies.

I find it troubling that someone with this level of belligerence and ignorance might actually be working in a position that has any greater authority than loo cleaner. the thought that someone might actually be relying on him to be able to competently assess anything is scary.

What I find "scary" is you lot are so persistent with this really, really pathetic and childish argument.

 

[MAD-T-REX]

he's claimed to.

I find it troubling that someone with this level of belligerence and ignorance might actually be working in a position that has any greater authority than loo cleaner. the thought that someone might actually be relying on him to be able to competently assess anything is scary.

Quite a few railway staff think that passengers are just a nuisance who get in the way of running a huge train set. The RailUK bunch blow their top whenever anyone grumbles about ticket shenanigans.

 

[skyscraper101]

Actually, what I fail to comprehend is why you persist with this quite frankly ridiculous argument.

And of course all tourists would have a Travelcard; why wouldn't they? Have you ever dealt with a tourist? The answer is "no" isn't it. On the Trip Advisor London forum every other question is asking about Oyster or Travelcards.

TBH it seems like you think that tourists and "disabled" people are as thick as two short planks. What was that about "living in fantasy world".........?

Why don't you provide actual facts rather than just dismissing my posts as ridiculous. I've provided many. Including your own cited Seat61.com article as proof that the UK has some of Europe's, if not the world's, highest fares. You disputed it and I called you on it. And you've still yet to apologise for quoting me out of context.

And don't you think if every other question from Tripadvisor is about Travelcards and Oystercards, that simply means a lot of people want some information about them. Or possibly they're confused about the complexities of the LU system of zones and payments? That doesn't mean 'every single tourist ever will have an oyster card you idiot.

And Walkit.com told me 0.2 miles, but whatever it's definitely not the "3rd of a mile" you keep claiming.

Again you are mis-quoting me and failing to provide any proof as to your claims so go back and read what I said. And how about some links as I am so helpfully providing you with to prove my point. Charring Cross Underground station to Embankment is 0.3 Miles - I have already linked, twice, to two different sources saying so, including the source you are claiming says otherwise.

I also think you are lying about having walked it, because you don't seem to have any idea of the actual distance in reality, nor how short it is.

I lived in London for 10 years, working in the West End for most of it and I've danced to some of the world's finest DJs under those very arches at Heaven beneath Charing Cross station more times than I can recall. I've walked literally hundreds of times between the two points in my lifetime and I also know its an uphill walk if you're coming from Embankment. So you are wrong, again.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

It's not me being "sneering" it's that Skyscaper bloke who is using "disabled people" to prop up his ridiculous argument, and also seems to think they are stupid.

TBH it seems like you [Skyscraper] think that tourists and "disabled" people are as thick as two short planks. What was that about "living in fantasy world".........?

Except he's really not claimed anything of the sort. He's simply argued that YOU don't get to be arbiter of what constitutes a meaningful journey, and YOU sure as fuck don't get to be arbiter of who can and can't walk how far and where. It's you who has been putting completely unnecessary emphasis on the word disabled; in fact, a bigger cynic than I might think you were doing it to imply that it's all a bit put on really, the lazy "disabled" people.

You're at least mildly entertaining I suppose. I've started reading your posts in my head as:

TBH bungle bungle bungle bungle bungle bungle bungle bungle "bungle" bungle bungle bungle bungle bungle two short planks. Bungle bungle bungle bungle "bungle in bungle bungle".........?

It's not much really but i'm still at work, got to make my own entertainment somehow.