How was your cycle commute?

[Orang Utan]

Most people manage to do so. Otherwise we'd have murder every day.

 

[pissflaps]

But it happens so often, I marvel how people's blood pressure doesn't explode

whilst your zenlike approach to nearly being slaughtered is admirable, i still reserve the right to defend/express myself even after the fact.

 

[Orang Utan]

How often are you knocked off your bike, nearly killed and then laughed at by the driver?

Not very often. I'm often cut up and often witness cavalier and even callous attitudes towards cyclists from other road users. I can understand why someone might want to smash a car up after such an incident. I just can't condone the action.

 

[Orang Utan]

whilst your zenlike approach to nearly being slaughtered is admirable, i still reserve the right to defend/express myself even after the fact.

There is nothing zen like about it. It's perfectly normal to be sanguine about the scrapes one gets into. What is not normal is reacting like a psychopath.

 

[_angel_]

There is nothing zen like about it. It's perfectly normal to be sanguine about the scrapes one gets into. What is not normal is reacting like a psychopath.

That's not a pyschopath reaction it's an ordinary human one.

 

[Onket]

Not very often. I'm often cut up and often witness cavalier and even callous attitudes towards cyclists from other road users. I can understand why someone might want to smash a car up after such an incident. I just can't condone the action.

For the third time- no-one has suggested this course of action after such an incident.

I can only assume that yet again, you are on a wind up.

 

[pissflaps]

There is nothing zen like about it. It's perfectly normal to be sanguine about the scrapes one gets into. What is not normal is reacting like a psychopath.

you need to go back and read the thread again.

 

[Onket]

There is nothing zen like about it. It's perfectly normal to be sanguine about the scrapes one gets into. What is not normal is reacting like a psychopath.

We are not talking about "the scrapes one gets into".

 

[Orang Utan]

For the third time- no-one has suggested this course of action after such an incident.

I can only assume that yet again, you are on a wind up.

I'm not! I'm genuinely bewildered by people sanctioning knocking off people's wing mirrors as revenge for being endangered and then being portrayed as being sanctimonious as if it's me that's the unusual one for not approving of deliberately escalating a tense situation.

 

[Orang Utan]

you need to go back and read the thread again.

Why? Have you changed your original wording?

 

[Orang Utan]

d-lock his fucking mirrors off next time.

A reminder of the post that inspired this exchange

 

[Onket]

I'm not! I'm genuinely bewildered by people sanctioning knocking off people's wing mirrors as revenge for being endangered and then being portrayed as being sanctimonious as if it's me that's the unusual one for not approving of deliberately escalating a tense situation.

People aren't "sanctioning knocking off people's wing mirrors as revenge for being endangered".

 

[Orang Utan]

Pissflaps is and you seem to be backing him up.

 

[gentlegreen]

I find that I don't actually hold onto the anger - I certainly don't chase after them with a D lock.
Mostly I want to find out what sort of idiot it was - try to get inside their heads - only up to a point though ...

 

[pissflaps]

then don't do it.

If someone in a vehicle attempts to murder me and is unrepentant about doing so, i feel it is entirely justified to make sure they are 'reminded' to pay more attention to the road in future. Frankly i reckon anyone that does that and gets away with a full set of teeth is doing well, also they should be counting their lucky fucking stars that the rather angry chap punching a hole in their fucking car isn't lying dead in a pool of piss and blood in the gutter as a result of them failing to take responsibility for their actions whilst piloting a ton of metal, glass and plastic down a public road.

 

[Onket]

Pissflaps is and you seem to be backing him up.

A reminder of the post that inspired this exchange

Underhand of you to only give half the story.

A reminder of the post pissflaps was replying to-

Got hit by a red light runner on Sunday in Lewisham. The worst thing about it was that rather than apologise, he just sort of shrugged and pointed as his (I assume) wife and kid jumped out of the car to go into the shop there Cos that justifies it somehow

So, to clarify (for the 4th time, now)- we are talking about being hit or knocked off your bike.

Not getting cut up, or some kind of everyday scrape, or whatever else you have repeatedly stated. Actual geniune danger of death followed by no apology, at best a brush off, at worst you the cyclist gettign the blame.

Have you got that now?

 

[colacubes]

Wow. I have caused a massive row without even posting

 

[Orang Utan]

then don't do it.

If someone in a vehicle attempts to murder me and is unrepentant about doing so, i feel it is entirely justified to make sure they are 'reminded' to pay more attention to the road in future. Frankly i reckon anyone that does that and gets away with a full set of teeth is doing well, also they should be counting their lucky fucking stars that the rather angry chap punching a hole in their fucking car isn't lying dead in a pool of piss and blood in the gutter as a result of them failing to take responsibility for their actions whilst piloting a ton of metal, glass and plastic down a public road.

I don't wish to repeat myself, but I see many flaws in this approach

 

[_angel_]

Pissflaps is and you seem to be backing him up.

Its only a car and its not like anyones talking about harming anyone.

Having said that you'd probably get done worse for harming a car than a person if it came to it.

 

[pissflaps]

Its only a car and its not like anyones talking about harming anyone.

Having said that you'd probably get done worse for harming a car than a person if it came to it.

sad but true. a couple of points and a fine if you actually kill a cyclist.

 

[Orang Utan]

Underhand of you to only give half the story.

A reminder of the post pissflaps was replying to-



So, to clarify (for the 4th time, now)- we are talking about being hit or knocked off your bike.

Not getting cut up, or some kind of everyday scrape, or whatever else you have repeatedly stated. Actual geniune danger of death followed by no apology, at best a brush off, at worst you the cyclist gettign the blame.

Have you got that now?

Yes. What do you want me to say? I still think the best response is not a violent one.

 

[Orang Utan]

Its only a car and its not like anyones talking about harming anyone.

Having said that you'd probably get done worse for harming a car than a person if it came to it.

Sadly true

 

[pissflaps]

i think a 'violent' response would be physical assault. I'd draw the line there too to be honest.

 

[Orang Utan]

The smashing of a wing mirror is likely to invite a more violent response, which is a good enough reason to restrain oneself, surely?

 

[Onket]

Yes. What do you want me to say? I still think the best response is not a violent one.

I would have preferred you to answer honestly from the start, without repeatedly downgrading what people were talking about to try to make your stance look more realistic. This is actually a serious issue, and not something that should be argued about just for your entertainment. I've got to be honest, if you follow your posts on this thread, that's all it looks like you have been doing. Not good.

 

[Orang Utan]

It's not a wind up! I just want everyone to try and keep calm!
I don't see how I am downgrading anything here. Just trying to ward people off a course of action they might regret.

 

[pissflaps]

The smashing of a wing mirror is likely to invite a more violent response, which is a good enough reason to restrain oneself, surely?

quite possibly. an occupational hazard i suppose. tho it's a bit hard for anyone behind the wheel of a car to abandon said car to try and chase down a bike.

 

[Orang Utan]

i think a 'violent' response would be physical assault. I'd draw the line there too to be honest.

Smashing a wing mirror with a d lock is violence

 

[pissflaps]

for the sake of balance - i have seen a fair few fuckwitted cyclists trying to filter down the inside of traffic, only to have their handlebars clatter a driver-side mirror and then scoot off without appologising/offering to pay for repairs.

 

[Crispy]

Yes. What do you want me to say? I still think the best response is not a violent one.

Agreed, for all the reasons you've given.