Heathrow 3rd runway: yay or nay

[Spymaster]

If that was the fella I'd tell the driver to put his foot down.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

An old boss of mine lives in Sipson and he campaigned like fuck against this.

He was a right wanker.

So, good.

Many of the houses in Sipson will remain, but be blighted to fuck. Worth hoping old cunty-chops's place is one of those

 

[redsquirrel]

You wait to see how much its going to cost the public purse and how much disruption its going to cost. A new hospital? 10 new schools? Honestly this will cost an extravagant fortune and don't expect the two Spanish companies who have been lecturing everyone about whats good for the UK to stump up much of the dough.

Guardian is quoting £17.6 bn for "the project", what % of that is public and what private not sure.

I'm utterly opposed, on every level it's stupid and destructive, to communities, to the environment even to most travellers. I hope the protesters block this project as long as possible (through both legal and illegal means).

 

[stavros]

Send them to Blackbushe Airport then - That's still sitting there, sorely underdeveloped despite it being the chosen site for London's main airport before the highly shifty Balfour/Abercrombie land-grab foisted Heathrow on us instead.

Have you any idea how Tory that area is? The Herbert Gussetts of North East Hampshire will not be happy at that proposal (I grew up very close but managed to escape).

They could move it up the A30 to Camberley and situate the runway purely on the Gove-Vain property.

 

[pogofish]

Have you any idea how Tory that area is? The Herbert Gussetts of North East Hampshire will not be happy at that proposal (I grew up very close but managed to escape).

They could move it up the A30 to Camberley and situate the runway purely on the Gove-Vain property.

Sounds like an ideal candidate for reinstatement then - Remember that Blackbushe today is actually a fragment of its former size - it used to straddle the A30, so its not like they are not already used to a larger airport!

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Sounds like an ideal candidate for reinstatement then - Remember that Blackbushe today is actually a fragment of its former size, so its not like they are not already used to a larger airport!

Round the corner is Farnborough, really busy airport, mostly used by the mods on here so I'm told...

 

[Teaboy]

Guardian is quoting £17.6 bn for "the project", what % of that is public and what private not sure.

I'm utterly opposed, on every level it's stupid and destructive, to communities, to the environment even to most travellers. I hope the protesters block this project as long as possible (through both legal and illegal means).

The numbers being touted by the government, airport commision and Hethrow itself are closer to £7-8 billion with Heathrow stumping up about £2 billion of that. The numbers quoted in that article seem far closer to the actual figure though. I'm sure Heathrow will happily find the extra cash, hold a meat raffle perhaps? Maybe all the local residents they claim were so in favour could donate a few quid? The SNP think its a great idea so maybe take a few billion out of their budget as well? After all, we're all in this together.

 

[stavros]

Sounds like an ideal candidate for reinstatement then - Remember that Blackbushe today is actually a fragment of its former size - it used to straddle the A30, so its not like they are not already used to a larger airport!

Apparently the Sunday market, which used to be vast when I were a lad, is no more.

There's RAF Odiham down the road too. I don't know how much use that gets these days.

 

[Gromit]

Does this mean they'll extend the Piccadilly line from Terminal 5 to a Terminal 6?

The Heathrow line is already too long as it is. I don't want to have to drive my train for even longer.

Although I'll most probably have moved lines long before it ever happens.

 

[bi0boy]

Does this mean they'll extend the Piccadilly line from Terminal 5 to a Terminal 6?

The Heathrow line is already too long as it is. I don't want to have to drive my train for even longer.

Although I'll most probably have moved lines long before it ever happens.

Apparently yes:

 

[Gromit]

Apparently yes:

I'm confused.

With the shadows n stuff are they trying to say that's going to be a surface station?

Can't see that happening.

If it's a cut away why the light and shadowing?

 

[bi0boy]

It's a cut-away. I guess they let the sun shine on everything otherwise it would be too dark. Basically it's just a simple extension of the T5 lines.

 

[gosub]

Sounds like an ideal candidate for reinstatement then - Remember that Blackbushe today is actually a fragment of its former size - it used to straddle the A30, so its not like they are not already used to a larger airport!

I know they cut the runway in half and returned it to common heath land they've quarried off the other end A30 is parallel.

Farnborough runway isn't long enough for larger and has pulled a lot of exec traffic out of Heathrow anyway

Odiham is still home to the Chinnock and they'd be hard pressed to find them a better home, though the local head of planning a Lib dem has his heart set on putting a new town on the site ( not going to happen)


The m25 between Heathrow and the Gatwick turn off is already the busiest road in Europe. Stop sucking more traffic onto it, Stanstead or Luton perhaps

 

[pogofish]

Stanstead is another of the four airport plan that was settled-on before the Balfour/Abercrombie grab, so it would be practical.

Also, hasn't Manston already got a runway big enough to land anything in the air today and support facilities to match - and its sitting there virtually unused!

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Also, hasn't Manston already got a runway big enough to land anything in the air today and support facilities to match - and its sitting there virtually unused!

Nothing virtually about it, the airport is closed!

 

[Wolveryeti]

They reckon the compulsory purchase alone will cost over 1bn, and the air pollution in the area is already at illegal and unsafe levels. Its location also means more flights overflying the most densely populated parts of thw country. They should expand Gatwick instead.

 

[A380]

HS2, HS3 and HS4, perhaps a third bore on the channel tunnel. Planes are great for long haul (and little ones for fucking about in) but short haul makes little sense. More Nuckear, wind and tidal powered TGVs!

Or failing that dust of the plans for Wing Airport again.

Wing Airfield

 

[2hats]

We will continue our programme of strategic national investments, … including the expansion of Heathrow Airport.

 

[cupid_stunt]

They reckon the compulsory purchase alone will cost over 1bn, and the air pollution in the area is already at illegal and unsafe levels. Its location also means more flights overflying the most densely populated parts of thw country. They should expand Gatwick instead.

The overall project is now estimated at £14bn, although that'll most likely rocket.

Anyway, game on...

Heathrow runway to 'change lives forever'

 

[A380]

The overall project is now estimated at £14bn, although that'll most likely rocket.

Anyway, game on...

Heathrow runway to 'change lives forever'

You cynic. When has a UK infrastructure project ever overrun on budget or time?

 

[Puddy_Tat]

 

[editor]

I've edited the poll options seeing as Zak Whatshisface has since become a total irrelevance to the debate

 

[SpookyFrank]

Lucky places that aren't London aren't in any need of investment in transport infrastructure eh?

Lucky also that ordinary folk have nowhere important to be, as this means we can focus all our attention on the needs of theoretical future generations of jet-setting business dickheads.

 

[Teaboy]

I've edited the poll options seeing as Zak Whatshisface has since become a total irrelevance to the debate

Well he is the Richmond MP again since the last election. Given he is a tory MP and wholly against expansion I expect to see an awful lot of him on TV and in the press regarding this issue.

 

[Teaboy]

Lucky places that aren't London aren't in any need of investment in transport infrastructure eh?

Lucky also that ordinary folk have nowhere important to be, as this means we can focus all our attention on the needs of theoretical future generations of jet-setting business dickheads.

The theory that this is somehow for the whole country in that Heathrow is the country's hub is indeed laughably shit.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Well he is the Richmond MP again since the last election. Given he is a tory MP and wholly against expansion I expect to see an awful lot of him on TV and in the press regarding this issue.

What I still don't understand is why? I know he's a billionaire Dave Angel, but for Cable and Greening, a third runway will mean fewer flights over their turf, at least for the first decade or so and after that there won't be more flights as we're told the existing runways are already at 99% capacity...

 

[Pickman's model]

how do you feel now, Spymaster?

 

[skyscraper101]

What I still don't understand is why? I know he's a billionaire Dave Angel, but for Cable and Greening, a third runway will mean fewer flights over their turf, at least for the first decade or so and after that there won't be more flights as we're told the existing runways are already at 99% capacity...

I'm presuming there would be more flights once the third runway gets go ahead, so how does it mean fewer flights over Richmond? Planes will be approaching from a different angle?

 

[Pickman's model]

red leader calling Spymaster

come in Spymaster

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

DP