Hardcore Speaker Porn

[beesonthewhatnow]

Yeah... the price!

D&B is gut wrenchingly expensive new....

.p.

Worth it though IMO...

 

[tendril]

Very curious how this sounds - I thought the wooden nature of a cabinet is a big part of the sound, so wonder what difference metal casings make. I think someone should fly me out there to investigate this pressing issue

may just be wooden cabs skinned with metal

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

Worth it though IMO...

thanks to you lot I have spent most of today following links to more speaker porn I cannot afford

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

thanks to you lot I have spent most of today following links to more speaker porn I cannot afford

I just work for people that can afford it, much easier...

 

[ska invita]

Homeless man designs amazing speakers
Navy veteran Kevin Nelson never wanted to build just another speaker.
The rather unique Zealth speaker produces stereo sound from a single box.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-10154055-47.html

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

I just work for people that can afford it, much easier...

will have to give this a go some day, it will probably involve a learning curve though

 

[Crispy]

Homeless man designs amazing speakers
Navy veteran Kevin Nelson never wanted to build just another speaker.
The rather unique Zealth speaker produces stereo sound from a single box.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-10154055-47.html

hmm. Dubious claim, IMO.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Homeless man designs amazing speakers
Navy veteran Kevin Nelson never wanted to build just another speaker.
The rather unique Zealth speaker produces stereo sound from a single box.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-10154055-47.html

Everything I know about acoustics says that won't work.

 

[BigTom]

Nelson never wanted to build just another speaker. No, his Zealth speaker produces stereo sound from a single box. Nelson devised special "Crossfire Imaging" crossover networks to produce stereo sound from a single speaker (the crossover is the part of the speaker that routes treble frequencies to the tweeter, bass to the woofer, etc.).

In other words, there's a right and left channel in each Zealth Audio speaker cabinet. He started working on the stereo from one speaker concept in 1989, then spent years of hard work refining the design.

How does that work then? Surely the point of stereo is some stuff hits one ear and some the other and you can make sound "move" around (particularly in headphones) and also pan stuff l/r to help instruments come through iirc.

Doesn't this just mean a stereo signal is converted into mono or are the two sets of cones in the box for each side? Even assuming that's the case I still don't understand how it'd really be stereo.. and then suggests you can use them in pairs so you get stereo from both sides?

edit: took too long to type this, lol

 

[sherriff rosco]

Worth it though IMO...

Well I`ll say it....it`s nothing special..it`s just good all round. Easy to setup, the amps and processing are all fixed so you can`t fuck it up, the boxes are well designed and stuff like flyware is simple ... etc etc.

On a larger scale I`ve heard a lot of big J-Line systems ( including about an hour ago!) and it still is v.good but never great? It`s very easy to mix on , very forgiving and does the job but hear the same mix on a WELL SETUP K1 or V-Dosc system the difference is noticable.

Normally I sit at the busy end of the multicore and I will admit that M2`s and M4`s are at the top of my wishlist for stage wedges as they are again...easy to setup, same amp & processing everywhere in the world etc etc.

D&B have been very clever in knowing their market and developing a product that works in ALL sitiuations..... but at a price

.p.

 

[DJ Squelch]

 

[ringo]

Where's that DJ Squelch?

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Well I`ll say it....it`s nothing special..it`s just good all round. Easy to setup, the amps and processing are all fixed so you can`t fuck it up, the boxes are well designed and stuff like flyware is simple ... etc etc.

I wouldn't quite say you can't fuck it up but yeah, there's a consistency to it all that I love. I find that I never really have to think about mixing on it iyswim, everything is just there.

On a larger scale I`ve heard a lot of big J-Line systems ( including about an hour ago!) and it still is v.good but never great? It`s very easy to mix on , very forgiving and does the job but hear the same mix on a WELL SETUP K1 or V-Dosc system the difference is noticable.

I've rigged K1 loads but never mixed on it. I do love L'Acoustics stuff but absolutely hate Soundvision, using it makes me want to throw my laptop out the nearest window. I find ArrayCalc much quicker/easier. I also prefer the J-Subs/infras to SB28's.

As for V-Dosc, it's remarkable how good a well setup rig can sound but there a whole heap of stuff to fuck up of you don't know what you're doing. As for the rigging, less said the better

Have you used D&B T series yet? Did my first show on it not so long ago and was really impressed. About as easy to rig as you could ever get and mixing on it was effortless.

Normally I sit at the busy end of the multicore and I will admit that M2`s and M4`s are at the top of my wishlist for stage wedges as they are again...easy to setup, same amp & processing everywhere in the world etc etc.

Same here, I actually prefer doing monitors to FOH nowadays, if only becuase your're usually closer to catering

D&B have been very clever in knowing their market and developing a product that works in ALL sitiuations

Thats ultimately why I like them so much. They don't get in the way of anything, they just sound good and you can get on with your mix. If I walk into a venue and see a D&B rig you can usually assume (although there's always exceptions, no system is perfect, obviously) it will sound good from the off. You can't always assume that about other systems.

 

[ska invita]

Where's that DJ Squelch?

i reckon this is a clue:

San Fernando, San Jose, Antique, Philippines

more action

 

[ska invita]

Busting out the Dire Straights!! Gets a pull too

not a lot of dancing going on!!

 

[ringo]

Didn't know they had such a sound system culture there. That's a lot of different sets to have in one place, I wonder what the point was. ETA: Ah, a battle of the sounds. Shame they're playing such awful music.

 

[ska invita]

Didn't know they had such a sound system culture there. That's a lot of different sets to have in one place, I wonder what the point was. ETA: Ah, a battle of the sounds. Shame they're playing such awful music.

theyve got the sound systems, just no sign of the culture in those vids!

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

Same here, I actually prefer doing monitors to FOH nowadays, if only becuase your're usually closer to catering

Nice to see a man with his priorities set right

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

This might be of interest or cause a laugh or two for a few people on this thread...

What happens when someone posts on a pro audio forum (containing some very good engineers and system techs) saying they have built a revolutionary speaker system that seemingly defies the laws of physics:

http://soundforums.net/junior-varsity/6387-listening-get-together.html

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

I much prefer this link to the one you posted in the jazzz thread bees I can now enjoy the wine that second one made me buy with a smile
in fact it lead me here which I can't recall being featured on the audiophoile thread so might just go and post it there now
e2a then read all of the link and realised it was a spoof

 

[ska invita]

is there no end to the french takeover of dub culture? the eric cantona sound system...

 

[nogojones]

 

[ringo]

is there no end to the french takeover of dub culture? the eric cantona sound system...

Heh, I wonder if they know how much it looks like Cantona, and how little it looks like it's meant to look

 

[ska invita]

SOLID MOJO SOUNDSYSTEM
Little modified mono setup with slightly tilted/expanded tops for better coverage.

 

[Farmer Giles]

MT, HD, HOG combo?

 

[FunkyUK]

That is gorgeous... though i'll raise you this....

Portal Companion cube Sub

 

[ska invita]

Ive been treying to find out about Lee Perrys sound system. Theres this in a book about him:

"Lee Perry had already [by 1970 i think] established an Upsetter Sound System by this time, operated by his record salesman/bodyguard and general assistant Jubie. Sticky was an occasional toaster on the set in the early days, later replaced by local bad boy Jah Stitch; though the sound was small and operated sporadically, it retained popularity downtown for much of the decade [60s?].

Quite likely this is it:

Perry Peoples Choice

between these two pics it looks like it was made up of 6x 18" scoops and 6x 15s

Woulve sounded a lot like this in the late 60s

 

[ska invita]

Good looking rig if ever i saw one
Roots Guidance

 

[ska invita]

 

[Boycey]

This might be of interest or cause a laugh or two for a few people on this thread...

What happens when someone posts on a pro audio forum (containing some very good engineers and system techs) saying they have built a revolutionary speaker system that seemingly defies the laws of physics:

http://soundforums.net/junior-varsity/6387-listening-get-together.html

that's several hours of my day gone

btw that silver reggae monstrosity looks like instant tinnitus- nasty.