Guardian's top ten war films.

[Kaka Tim]

shit list - another vote for bridge too far and das boot.

interesting that 'bridge too far' was seen as too far fetched to be credible - when its pretty much spot on in its historical accuracy and detail.

Not sure wether 'battle of algiers' - brilliant though it is - counts as a war film.

 

[scanner]

"The Red Badge Of Courage" was a good one, as was "Home Of The Brave".

 

[Casually Red]

this is one of my favourite scenes from lepa sela lepo gore, based on a true story of a serb unit that got stuck up a tunnel in Bosnia . The song in the background is a yugoslav prog rock favourite ive screeched out in the company of drunken balkanites a few times that evryone loves over there for some reason bacila je sve niz rieku . Theres no subtitles on this but basically after being stuck up there a few days and with all the horrors accompanying,many, including drinking his own piss, the dude asks the muslims for a dance and after they play it . When they riddle him a few times he tells them theres no chance hell fall down because those are the legs that jumped off the volksbank in frankfurt when the serbs robbed it..as they did the half of europe .
I just love that film

 

[Casually Red]

I still get a wee bit emotional watching this scene from Battle of the Neretva . This is basically true as well . Tito has refused to leave any wounded or sick behind, so a big part of the nazi strategy was to attack the hospital areas . Partisans defended to the bitter end and refused to abandon them no matter what . Really happened against horrific odds in the dead of winter .Hardy Kruger was the officer leading the attack . Hell of a cast in that film, Hardy Kruger, Kurt Jurgens, Orson Welles, Yul Brynner, Franco Nero...but this is my favourite bit . Anti fascist classic

 

[butchersapron]

That film is laughable propaganda - as was the whole 50s-70s Yugoslavian film industries directed attempt at constructing then bolstering a national-heroic founding myth to support tito's stalinism via films about partisans. So of course you love it.

Their top ten docos one is out now - as baffling lightweight as all the others.

 

[belboid]

Their top ten docos one is out now - as baffling lightweight as all the others.

All (well, except 9/11) solid films, or I imagine they are as I havent seen A Propos de Nice. Nanook shouldn't really be there, it's just very old. Glad to see Grey Gardens is.

 

[sim667]

Id like to see the sorrow and the pity..... alas, it doesnt seem to be on youtube

 

[Tankus]

No full metal jacket either.......

3 that wouldn't be on a top 10 list that stick in the mind for me
Two naval ones , both a german antinazi agenda and one set in the Afghan /USSR war

Got to be on the director of "das boat's" top 10

 

[DotCommunist]

Id like to see the sorrow and the pity..... alas, it doesnt seem to be on youtube

you can find it on the usual torrent sites.

 

[8den]

That film is laughable propaganda - as was the whole 50s-70s Yugoslavian film industries directed attempt at constructing then bolstering a national-heroic founding myth to support tito's stalinism via films about partisans. So of course you love it.

Their top ten docos one is out now - as baffling lightweight as all the others.

That is a absolutely bizarre list.

 

[belboid]

That is a absolutely bizarre list.

it follows the same format as all the others. Half of them acknowledged classics (with a preference for early ones), an rather odd recent one, an obscure foreign language one and an obscure english language one. having Crumb, Fahrenheit AND Grizzly Man is slightly unusual, but at least one of them absolutely deserves to be there.

 

[8den]

it follows the same format as all the others. Half of them acknowledged classics (with a preference for early ones), an rather odd recent one, an obscure foreign language one and an obscure english language one. having Crumb, Fahrenheit AND Grizzly Man is slightly unusual, but at least one of them absolutely deserves to be there.

I agree thats why I called it "bizarre" instead of wrong. I've not seen Grizzly Man, but I understand it's reputation, if you're picking a Moore film, stick "Roger and Me" in there, just not all three of those films, at the expense of other more deserving films.

It's similar to the War films list, no would disagree that 3 Kings isn't a good film, but it's not going to leap out at you as one of the greatest war film's ever made.

 

[Tankus]

Going down the daily mail route to create debate and multiply the re hit rate to sound off ...

just jump on that outrage bus ....and post post post

....seems a bit desperate and not a little obvious , looking at some of the other lists .

 

[butchersapron]

it follows the same format as all the others. Half of them acknowledged classics (with a preference for early ones), an rather odd recent one, an obscure foreign language one and an obscure english language one. having Crumb, Fahrenheit AND Grizzly Man is slightly unusual, but at least one of them absolutely deserves to be there.

Only the war ones do.

 

[Favelado]

I absolutely love Grizzly Man. A man's troubled mind so nakedly on display. Not to mention memorable perfomances from Mr. Chocolate and Sergeant Brown.

 

[butchersapron]

I absolutely love Grizzly Man. A man's troubled mind so nakedly on display. Not to mention memorable perfomances from Mr. Chocolate and Sergeant Brown.

A hideous treatise on murder. A good film. But.

 

[belboid]

Only the war ones do.

and docs and arthouse. a few more miss out the obscure ones.

basically, they are all very uninspiring

 

[butchersapron]

and docs and arthouse. a few more miss out the obscure ones.

basically, they are all very uninspiring

It wasn't the obscure ones missing that annoyed me, but the important - harlan county USA, battle of chile - these changed stuff rather than being films that these people liked. That being a good film was enough.

 

[belboid]

It wasn't the obscure ones missing that annoyed me, but the important - harlan county USA, battle of chile - these changed stuff rather than being films that these people liked. That being a good film was enough.

well, that is why Thin Blue Line is in. And it partially true for Shoah and Sorrow & the Pity. I can well imagine they would see Harlan County as going beyond the 'legitimate' realm of documentaries tho

 

[butchersapron]

That's why it was needed in there.

 

[SikhWarrioR]

Wot not
Das boot
Tora Tora Tora
The Great escape
Aces High
All Quite On The Western Front

 

[DaveCinzano]

I still get a wee bit emotional watching this scene from Battle of the Neretva . This is basically true as well . Tito has refused to leave any wounded or sick behind, so a big part of the nazi strategy was to attack the hospital areas . Partisans defended to the bitter end and refused to abandon them no matter what . Really happened against horrific odds in the dead of winter .Hardy Kruger was the officer leading the attack . Hell of a cast in that film, Hardy Kruger, Kurt Jurgens, Orson Welles, Yul Brynner, Franco Nero...but this is my favourite bit . Anti fascist classic

That film is laughable propaganda - as was the whole 50s-70s Yugoslavian film industries directed attempt at constructing then bolstering a national-heroic founding myth to support tito's stalinism via films about partisans. So of course you love it.

I watched it for the first time recently, and I think I lean firmly in the Butchersapron camp on this. Unabashed myth-making, and for all the international stars in it, it doesn't even hit the right notes to make it a successful non-domestic blockbuster.

 

[ID47]

Not a big fan of war films but have always liked 'Everybody Go Home! or Tutti a Casa!' for it's humanity and for its ending. Tutti a casa (1960) 7.7 | Comedy, Drama, War

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