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A ginormous house with a budget of £1.2 million. Did that include the land? It is bound to go well over budget.
They didn't mention the cost of the land. Normally do so presumably they didn't want to say. I bet it was expensive - big plot in a generally nice area and with planning permission. Then 1.2m+ for the house. Crazy.
Another unfnished one. Three in a row? They didn't look like it had really gone to plan. And the house was stupidly big. I bet they sell it.
 
They didn't mention the cost of the land. Normally do so presumably they didn't want to say. I bet it was expensive - big plot in a generally nice area and with planning permission. Then 1.2m+ for the house. Crazy.
Another unfnished one. Three in a row? They didn't look like it had really gone to plan. And the house was stupidly big. I bet they sell it.
The land was bought years previous I think. They wanted to be " environmentally " friendly but not with all that concrete and steel and wtf is environmentally friendly about such a huge house for just 4 people!
 
Assuming season 20 is the latest one, the clifftop house is lovely. It's bare on the inside, as usual, but presumably that'll change over time, and the design is partly designed to protect their adorable and totally spoilt dogs.

Nope, obvs it's not the latest series, but still, season 20 cliff house in Scotland was lovely!
 
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Yep I'm sure, but I think it made the whole venture utterly pointless. As soon as the kids walk out the door to go to school they're back to square one.
If they were that bothered they should have moved to Scotland. Up a mountain.
Saw the bloke ( he was into fitness stuff ) in a bar yesterday by Clapham Junction, he who built the ultra healthy gouse. So he is probably still in London but can't speak for his wife and children. The signs were that they have gone their own separate ways.
 
-Just watched this one Grand Designs Isle of Wight House: Here's the HD Photos

"scrimped and saved and really struggled to get the last 500k of the £3.3million it cost"

Was it wrong of me to hope they went bust and ended up living in an empty windowless shell?
Watched it last night. Sorry, it wasn't for me. Everything the bloke said was in terms of money, he really didn't think about anything else. Oh, we need more money, I'll get it from here. We need more money let's go somewhere else and get it. It was incredibly labour intensive, but hey, if it costs another 50 grand or so, who cares, we will get it from somewhere. He had no problem getting ever increasing amounts of money together from one place or another; how was he ever going to repay all the debts.
 
Watched it last night. Sorry, it wasn't for me. Everything the bloke said was in terms of money, he really didn't think about anything else. Oh, we need more money, I'll get it from here. We need more money let's go somewhere else and get it. It was incredibly labour intensive, but hey, if it costs another 50 grand or so, who cares, we will get it from somewhere. He had no problem getting ever increasing amounts of money together from one place or another; how was he ever going to repay all the debts.


Way to many of the later era GD involved a substantial chunk of cash that makes me just not care about the builders. Those that don’t usually involve the builder being an architect and saving a mint and/or getting the land for peanuts somehow
 
Way to many of the later era GD involved a substantial chunk of cash that makes me just not care about the builders. Those that don’t usually involve the builder being an architect and saving a mint and/or getting the land for peanuts somehow
Speaking of the architect, he had the same devil may care attitude to money. He reminded me more of del boy than anything else.
 
New one on last night. Typical arrogant idiot with too much money but at least he had some self-awareness by the end.
 
Family land, architect nephew.

Over-ambitious 3 bedroom house plan, massive kitchen.

Adverse weather! Extend the schedule.

Spiralling costs, sack the project manager. I'll do it myself with no experience, how hard can it be?

Re-mortgage.

3rd child on the way.

Re-mortgage again, borrow from family.

One window doesn't fit, back to the supplier. Measurements were wrong, we're on the hook to pay for the replacement to arrive in 12 weeks.

More adverse weather, who would have thought in a British winter?

Budget doubled.

Kevin: "And finally, they're living here. With little more than his relentless drive and determination, his vision has become a reality and it is spectacular."

^ seemingly every Grand Designs ever.
 
I'm going to try to check which ep it is, but they're actually meditating to help with the build. It feels like a parody. They sat there looking back into the past so that they could look into the present and bring it in. For ten paid sessions.


They did finish it... after 20 years. Presumably they lived somewhere else and raised their kids wherever that was.

This one: Revisiting the Devon eco barn 20 years on
 
The 3rd episode of the new series (shown tonight) was a good one. Building for a good reason rather than a vanity project for rich people.
 
Bit harsh but I guess I know what you mean. Hard not to be on her side regardless.
Yes, she had been dealt a rough hand and gave the appearance of trying hard. Perhaps it was the way the programme was edited. Didn't she say something like it wasn't about money, I just want the best regardless?
Sorry.
 
Well, there was me thinking U75 was all about Left-Wing politics and Punk Rock and there's a Thread about "Grand Designs!"

I must say, having read all of it, that it's been great fun observing all your thoughts. I am a fan of the show, even though I hate property porn with a vengeance, but you're all right: there is clearly a pattern at play, there are certain cliches that reappear over and over again and Kevin is just so sceptical and negative.

I think in some ways the programme doesn't help itself as it compresses time, so a 4 year build with a couple in their 30's won't necessarily reveal all the struggle and sleepless nights as they wouldn't have aged that much (though their kids might, if they have any). I suppose the Hobbit House that has taken 20 years and still isn't finished is more revealing of the logistics involved in both house building and making the programme - the couple were markedly older at the end than the start.

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the "House of the Year" specials that have appeared periodically in Decembers past? Some of them are enormous, money-no-object design projects rather than cosy homes to be lived in, but some have been small and modest.

I am a keen Environmentalist and would love to self-generate my own energy and be off the National Grid, so any homes that prioritise that aspect will always appeal to me more. I generally don't have an issue with anyone who appears on the show, whether they have money or not. I think sometimes the editing could be a bit kinder, but I also think the show can be guilty of making it all look easier than it actually is.

Personally, I wouldn't self-build, but I'd be more than happy to move into a house whereby somebody else had already done all the work! I'd be more interested to explore Green technologies and retrofit them to an existing build, I think that might be more cost-effective, maybe even try and get it close to passive house standards.

I also don't care too much about what something looks like from the outside as I think most of us spend more time on the inside looking out, so getting an attractive interior with lots of light and great views would be of more importance to me. I'm also a big fan of wood as a building material, both outside and in, as it's warm and organic, so cladding your home with sustainable versions of the stuff would work for me.

I also think, because it's just me living here, I wouldn't bother having lots of smaller rooms, I'd have fewer rooms but bigger in size with floor to ceiling windows. And I'd avoid black like the plague! Have lots of warm and inviting colours and soft furnishings. I'd be hammering those 3D computer models like a maniac!

I'd also never project manage, make sure everything is carefully costed in advance and leave all the complicated and technical stuff to the experts as it's their livelihoods.

One of my favourite houses was built by an elderly retired couple and it was a Hauf Haus:


Failing that, something that could be constructed off-site and then transported to the location. The Huf Haus took 7 days to put up once it arrived - all the ground works had been pre-prepared and the house arrived by lorry in pre-fabricated parts. The German builders then just put it all together, like a giant kit, and I think it had already been pre-wired and insulated, too. It was water-tight after just one week, so interior fittings and fixtures were very straightforward. I can't remember about the windows, I think they came as part of the package, but everything fitted first time, no fettling involved!

I just find the programme very inspiring and usually come away dreaming of living out my final years in such a place, so I always admire anyone who's had the bollocks to at least try it.
 
Interesting post there Derek S-H though I beg to differ over the Huf Haus. Part of the joy of GD is people designing and building their own homes.
I am not a fan of buying an off the shelf house and plonking it on a plot of land somewhere; anyone with enough money can do that and its
not really in the spirit of the programme.
Want to live somewhere basic and off grid - Carving out a cave house against all odds
 
The only House of the Year I watched I was mostly annoyed because the winner won it and not reused space with a library or the place built to accentute the ruins around it
 
Interesting post there Derek S-H though I beg to differ over the Huf Haus. Part of the joy of GD is people designing and building their own homes.
I am not a fan of buying an off the shelf house and plonking it on a plot of land somewhere; anyone with enough money can do that and its
not really in the spirit of the programme.
Want to live somewhere basic and off grid - Carving out a cave house against all odds

The pre-fabs look like a great way to build a house but they don't make great TV. It works, its much more sustainable and ecological but you don't get the fucking nightmare drama out of it or have people living in caravansfor 3 years while they build the proper house
 
Well, there was me thinking U75 was all about Left-Wing politics and Punk Rock and there's a Thread about "Grand Designs!"

I must say, having read all of it, that it's been great fun observing all your thoughts. I am a fan of the show, even though I hate property porn with a vengeance, but you're all right: there is clearly a pattern at play, there are certain cliches that reappear over and over again and Kevin is just so sceptical and negative.

I think in some ways the programme doesn't help itself as it compresses time, so a 4 year build with a couple in their 30's won't necessarily reveal all the struggle and sleepless nights as they wouldn't have aged that much (though their kids might, if they have any). I suppose the Hobbit House that has taken 20 years and still isn't finished is more revealing of the logistics involved in both house building and making the programme - the couple were markedly older at the end than the start.

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the "House of the Year" specials that have appeared periodically in Decembers past? Some of them are enormous, money-no-object design projects rather than cosy homes to be lived in, but some have been small and modest.

I am a keen Environmentalist and would love to self-generate my own energy and be off the National Grid, so any homes that prioritise that aspect will always appeal to me more. I generally don't have an issue with anyone who appears on the show, whether they have money or not. I think sometimes the editing could be a bit kinder, but I also think the show can be guilty of making it all look easier than it actually is.

Personally, I wouldn't self-build, but I'd be more than happy to move into a house whereby somebody else had already done all the work! I'd be more interested to explore Green technologies and retrofit them to an existing build, I think that might be more cost-effective, maybe even try and get it close to passive house standards.

I also don't care too much about what something looks like from the outside as I think most of us spend more time on the inside looking out, so getting an attractive interior with lots of light and great views would be of more importance to me. I'm also a big fan of wood as a building material, both outside and in, as it's warm and organic, so cladding your home with sustainable versions of the stuff would work for me.

I also think, because it's just me living here, I wouldn't bother having lots of smaller rooms, I'd have fewer rooms but bigger in size with floor to ceiling windows. And I'd avoid black like the plague! Have lots of warm and inviting colours and soft furnishings. I'd be hammering those 3D computer models like a maniac!

I'd also never project manage, make sure everything is carefully costed in advance and leave all the complicated and technical stuff to the experts as it's their livelihoods.

One of my favourite houses was built by an elderly retired couple and it was a Hauf Haus:


Failing that, something that could be constructed off-site and then transported to the location. The Huf Haus took 7 days to put up once it arrived - all the ground works had been pre-prepared and the house arrived by lorry in pre-fabricated parts. The German builders then just put it all together, like a giant kit, and I think it had already been pre-wired and insulated, too. It was water-tight after just one week, so interior fittings and fixtures were very straightforward. I can't remember about the windows, I think they came as part of the package, but everything fitted first time, no fettling involved!

I just find the programme very inspiring and usually come away dreaming of living out my final years in such a place, so I always admire anyone who's had the bollocks to at least try it.
The thing that struck me most about that build was how the German work crew cleaned up after. The buckets they had used looked as if they’d just come off the shelves.
I wanted to employ them for that reason alone.

If want sustainable though. You can’t beat the Woodman’s Cottage build. That was a build you willed every success to the build and the owner.
 
The "lighthouse" in Croyde still hasn't been sold. Last I heard he had to be shot of it by Xmas last year.

The article mentions receivers so I'm assuming he's bankrupt now. ETA: Yet he's trying to borrow £2m to fix the drive. And he's proud of what he achieved, apparently. :D

If you've never watched Grand Designs, this is the one to watch. Absolute madness from start to ... well, I'd say finish ... but it's not over yet, over a decade later.

 
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Just caught up with the water tower episode - wow!

It wasn't a question of things going wrong, amazingly, but more about the lack of funds and labour which have hobbled the project. And it was still just a project - 5 years in the making and hardly anything to show for it.

But the finished house in Devon was absolutely amazing, though the owners had virtually 3 x the budget and probably an army of specialists building it; the project in Northampton was basically a one-man show with little previous experience.

I thought Kevin was rather unfair and harsh on them in his summary, so I'm glad he took them to the Devon house to show them a glimpse of what their finished house could look like. I hope he (if he's still alive and able) revisits them in 10 years' time and see if they've finished it, they deserve it if only for their ambition.

And the wife couldn't seem to make up her mind about her hair colour!
 
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