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Global financial system implosion begins

Ahhh they cant even print money these days without problems ;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11941612

A printing error has forced the US to stockpile $110bn (£69.78bn) in new $100 notes until officials can sort and destroy the flawed bills.

The bills, which represent an estimated one-tenth of the value of all US currency in circulation, are being held in US government facilities in Washington DC and Fort Worth in the state of Texas.
 
Sadly, no, for a few reasons. The first is the extent to which the debt is multiplied out of all proportion to physical wealth...

A picture speaks a thousand words:

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See also
 
gold only has value because people believe it does and it's value will change according to the market and conditions of production or conditions in countries that have gold reserves or gold mines - gold is a total red herring
 
gold only has value because people believe it does and it's value will change according to the market and conditions of production or conditions in countries that have gold reserves or gold mines - gold is a total red herring

A throwback to times when gold was used as currency. It's as useful as a red herring in a game of fencing.
 
Good, broad piece over at steadystate.org, relevant to the above discussion on the wealth/money nexus:

Real Economies and the Illusions of Abstraction

The mathematical fantasy that money is wealth and can reproduce itself is revealed again in the US housing and foreclosure crisis. Money is a useful information system for tracking our use of nature’s resources and scoring the games we humans play, but it gradually became mistakenly equated with the real wealth of nations.

This is their agenda, with which I agree:

Exposing all the statistic illusions, inoperative models, dysfunctional economic dogmas – including their unsustainable offspring: debt-based money and compound interest – can begin the Green Transition to the emerging economies of the 21st century. The new coalition is now visible: responsible and green investors and companies, environmentalists, Millennials, progressive labor unions and their pension funds, students, independent media and voters, systems thinkers, futurists and academics pioneering new courses in sustainability, as well as dispossessed homeowners, jobless workers, professionals and veterans eager to put their skills to work – all are ready to help grow the green economies of the future.
 
Real Economies and the Illusions of Abstraction.
Quote: "The mathematical fantasy that money is wealth and can reproduce itself is revealed again in the US housing and foreclosure crisis. Money is a useful information system for tracking our use of nature’s resources and scoring the games we humans play, but it gradually became mistakenly equated with the real wealth of nations."

How utterly fascinating. It of course is something that is patently obvious, but sometimes it takes something being pointed out as succinctly as that to remind us. Money - as a measure/record of value or unit of exchange, whether it be shells, little Sumerian grain record tablets, cheques, banknotes, digits on a computer screen, pebbles, even metals, is all something of a confidence game. It is the shadow of wealth, and a transitory means of exchanging wealth, assets etc. Rarely is it intrinsically wealth itself, even though it may have some intrinsic value or utility of some sort or another.

Sadly for one reason or another confidence in it can collapse overnight, in a quick tipping point, or slowly over a number of months or years (the 'decant' style tipping point?).

Civic society and civilisation can best be preserved and poverty and misery (which looks set to increase) can be best kept to a minimum if sufficient numbers of people understand this and plan accordingly. In today's instant gratification age of mobile phones and usually fully stocked supermarkets and just in time delivery systems etc, forward planning skills aren't the most widespread, especially in cushy, developed countries. As people in the hithereto flourishing democracy of Germany in the 1930's found to their cost, crossing your fingers and hoping for the best will probably prove to be the least effective strategy.
 
The only self described socialist in the senate and an independent who broke the two party system.

Bleeding hell, he won his seat with 65% of the vote. Self described socialist, who knew Vermot was such a hot bed of actual real left wing attitudes!
 
This is a great idea and campaign started by Max Keiser (www.maxkeiser.com), some of you may know him form his “truth about markets” show on Resonancefm 104.4fm (the worlds best radio station). I’ve been following Max for about six years and he knows what he’s on about, predicting against the trend/lies the economic meltdown (theft), amongst many other things, that we’re all feeling. Its also a double or even triple whammy, as our old friend Tony Bliar is paid 2 million dollars a year for, ahem, consultation, and you could make a few bob too, because silver/gold is real, paper money is just an IOU illusion from lying scum. If enough people actually buy silver and take physical delivery of it, taking it out of the market, forcing the price up, JP Morgan will be on the line for billions and will be bankrupted, and we’ll even get help from those sharks called hedge funds, as they will see an opportunity to make some dosh and start attacking JP morgan share price, (no honor amongst thieves), sounds good to me, its about 18 quid an ounce but can be bought in one tenth of an ounce coins, so basically anyone can afford to buy something. Go to www.maxkeiser.com or just search “crash JP Morgan – buy silver” to find out more




http://www.zerohedge.com/article/ma...eam-after-guardian-posts-his-silver-squeeze-t
 
Hmmm!
More than 100 American cities could go bust next year as the debt crisis that has taken down banks and countries threatens next to spark a municipal meltdown, a leading analyst has warned.

Meredith Whitney, the US research analyst who correctly predicted the global credit crunch, described local and state debt as the biggest problem facing the US economy, and one that could derail its recovery.

"Next to housing this is the single most important issue in the US and certainly the biggest threat to the US economy," Whitney told the CBS 60 Minutes programme on Sunday night.

"There's not a doubt on my mind that you will see a spate of municipal bond defaults. You can see fifty to a hundred sizeable defaults – more. This will amount to hundreds of billions of dollars' worth of defaults."

New Jersey governor Chris Christie summarised the problem succinctly: "We spent too much on everything. We spent money we didn't have. We borrowed money just crazily. The credit card's maxed out, and it's over. We now have to get to the business of climbing out of the hole. We've been digging it for a decade or more. We've got to climb now, and a climb is harder."

American cities and states have debts in total of as much as $2tn. In Europe, local and regional government borrowing is expected to reach a historical peak of nearly €1.3tn (£1.1tn) this year.

Cities from Detroit to Madrid are struggling to pay creditors, including providers of basic services such as street cleaning. Last week, Moody's ratings agency warned about a possible downgrade for the cities of Florence and Barcelona and cut the rating of the Basque country in northern Spain. Lisbon was downgraded by rival agency Standard & Poor's earlier this year, while the borrowings of Naples and Budapest are on the brink of junk status. Istanbul's debt has already been downgraded to junk.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/dec/20/debt-crisis-threatens-us-cities
 
US local government relies very heavily on property taxes and as property prices crater demands for reevaluation see their tax take drop.

Hard times in the US these days.
 
As people have mentioned, this is the result of the shifting around of the trillions of USD of toxic debt that the "Masters of the Universe" have created.

First, when the banks profit, it is, of course, theirs.

Then, oops, when they fuck up, they're too big to fail.

Soooo ....... Bail 'em out with public money, Boys!

Then, of course, many tens of millions of (relatively,) poor, working peeps across the globe lose their livelyhoods.

Ooops!

Where's the toxic debt gone?

Ahhhhhh. It's now owned by those poor working peeps who are no longer working and can't pay their tax contributions.

Ooops!

The governments that have facilitated all of this skulduggery are weeping and wailing and cutting social services, benefits, wages.

Ooops!

More peeps out of work.

We're all in this together - say the politicians - we (meaning you,) need to tighten our (meaning your) belts.

More cuts.

Oops!


Where's all the toxic debt?

Ummmmmmm.

It's been transfered to governments, Boys (that means you).

The banks debt hasn't gone away - it's just become "Sovereign" debt.

Oops!

That means that countries are now going bankrupt.

Oops!

Never mind, eh?

Let's face it, at least the banks are making record profits again and .... by jove .... just look at those bonuses.

And with the help of the EU (IMF, name your lender here,) we can make sure that those poor peeps who've lost their jobs will suffer for a couple of decades to try and bail out these countries that have assumed all these trillions of toxic debt and are thus bankrupt.

Jolly hockey sticks, Boys!

Crack the Champagne and order the new Porsche, eh!

Private profits and socialised (toxic) debts = bankrupt countries.

Pass the parcel.

What a good game.

Woof
 
Intriguing. Tell us more. Landesbank - is that one of the Icelandic banks with an operation in Germany?

Germany is a Federal state. The constituent parts are called Laende. Each one has a bank.

The Landesbanken are a group of state owned banks unique to Germany. They are regionally organised and their business is predominantly wholesale banking. They are also the head banking institution of the local and regional bases Sparkassen (= saving banks).

Wiki.
 
Sounds as if they must be rock solid, risk free institutions then? :confused:

Not any more. this article is from 2008.

Although some, such as WestLB, have been on European capital markets bankers’ radar for several years, they really stumbled onto the global financial markets stage last summer, when it emerged they were the backers to a disproportionately large segment of European asset-backed commercial paper conduits.

As these conduits failed to raise funds to keep their credit and mortgage investments afloat, the Landesbanken were often strained to provide the credit lines they had promised. This led to the collapse of SachsenLB, which was sold to Landesbank Baden-Württemberg last year, and a €5bn ($7.8bn) rescue package for WestLB. Pressure on the sector to consolidate is growing.

The seeds of the trouble were sown in July 2005 when the European Commission abolished the state guarantees on Landesbanken. These guarantees gave the banks top ratings, which meant they could raise funds in the capital markets more cheaply than private sector banks.

They passed their cheaper borrowing costs onto their customers, which often made them more competitive. This drew the ire of the private sector.

The removal of the state guarantees forced them to change their business models and to seek other sources of funding. The banks, which have small to non-existent retail deposit bases, rely on the wholesale markets for funding. These pressures led some of them into the jungle of structured credit.

SachsenLB, the Leipzig-based lender, opened an office in Dublin to manage complex structured credit investments while WestLB, the Düsseldorf lender, also built a large exposure to structured credit through several conduits.

However, analysts argue the biggest problem the Landesbanken face is not the sub-prime exposures some are fighting to digest, but rather their long-term role in a market that is the most overbanked in Europe.

My bold.

Another shining example of "liberalisation"



http://www.efinancialnews.com/story/2008-03-17/landesbanken-under-pressure-to-consolidate
 
. It is the shadow of wealth, and a transitory means of exchanging wealth, assets etc. Rarely is it intrinsically wealth itself, even though it may have some intrinsic value or utility of some sort or another.

Its a fucking fantasy, a piece of paper. Take out a note and read along the top "Bank of England, I promise to pay the bearer on demand, the sum of XX(whatever the note is). I read recently someone actually went in and demanded his twenty pounds "sterling", the cashiers needless to say didnt have the silver on hand :)
 
Its a fucking fantasy, a piece of paper. Take out a note and read along the top "Bank of England, I promise to pay the bearer on demand, the sum of XX(whatever the note is). I read recently someone actually went in and demanded his twenty pounds "sterling", the cashiers needless to say didnt have the silver on hand :)

This is true. I recall that in recent years figures at the Bank of England have given interviews and released statements in an attempt to clarify the nature of their promise and the exchangeability of their promissory notes.

Broadly speaking they describe the notes as a "claim" on the resources of the Bank of England. They can of course be deposited with financial institutions with little difficulty, for electronic credit in a current or savings account. And exchanged for goods and services readily and easily throughtout the UK economy. And exchanged worldwide in banks, bureau de change and such like for local currency issued by central banks and private banks elseswhere.

Most commercial banks and savings institutions that people transact business with or are customers of, will - with relative ease - also exchange Bank of England notes, into "coin of the realm", issued by The Royal Mint (1p, 2p, 5p, 10p, 20p, 50p, £1, £2 coins etc)

However, if I recall correctly, the promise on the Bank of England note, indicates that to ultimately transact and achieve fulfillment of the promise directly with them, you must visit (or write using an insured means?) the Bank of England in person at their HQ in London. However, you are quite right, not even the Bank of England will exchange it for (silver) sterling. They will not even exchange it for Royal Mint coin. All they will do is exchange it for another note, or combination of notes (i.e. a £20 for a new £20 note, or 4 £5 notes). In other words, to fulfill a promise to pay they are issuing more promises to pay. So while the notes may be a "claim" on the resources of the Bank of England, it is a claim that is never, and can never really be fulfilled in practice.

This is the nature of the fiat currency system. The notes have value because the government and the central bank 'decree' they have value, thus engendering confidence and universal public backing for the currency. Thus, the promise behind the notes is not really fulfilled by the issuing institutions, but by people that accept the notes in exchange for goods and services, and later spend them, exchanging them for more goods and services. Thus there is no gold or even silver standard, but what could perhaps be best described as a 'consumer standard'. The claim that the notes are a claim on the resources of the Bank of England is thus somewhat misleading. In actual day-to-day practice if the banknotes can't be exchanged for anything of any real or tangible value there, ultimately bank notes become a claim on both solid and human resources belonging to the average citizen. Interestingly, even coin of the realm - in terms of it's scrap value - is only worth a fraction of it's stated value (roughly 1/10, depending on the scrap metal value of the coin). The only way to realise the promise to pay and the value of the note is to spend it and turn into a good or service of some utility and usefulness to the spender.

Hence this is why there will never be any sincere or lasting efforts to tackle poverty or inequality in the world. For currency in the current system to have value it requires that some people have a lot, and others have less, in stratified layers of economic wealth, advantage, plenty and class. It is a nonsense that we live in a class-less society, a monstrous lie and an errant fiction. Money becomes valueless if there is no class advantage, no class leverage within our society. If everyone has enough money that they have no interest or need to exchange any goods, services or labour to obtain it, the current mercantilist global economic system would grind to a halt. Some greens argue that this would be no bad thing, helping as it would to cause a massive reduction in man-made global greenhouse gas emmissions. However when it comes to protecting the planet, the needs of protecting the environment and the people need to be finely balanced. A world with insufficient trade and commerce would be just as dystopian as a world with too much of it, particularly the environmentally destructive varieties of trade and commerce.

That is the challenge of the generation of young people living now and all thinkers in these dawning years of the 21st century. Devising a more honest system that fulfills peoples needs around the globe, and that isn't predicated, doesn't require inequality as the foundation for it's success and efficacy.

But back to fiat currency, I have noticed in recent years that the promise to pay aspect has become watered down even in Scotland. Our Scottish banknotes state that the promise to pay can be fulfilled at the headquarters of the banks (RBS and BofS in Edinburgh & Clydesdale Bank in Glasgow). However in reality you can go into any branch of the bank anywhere, like Bank of England notes, deposit the notes in an account for electronic credit, or exchange them for coin. Interestingly, some of the banks have watered down the promise, and insist that you must have an account with the bank to exchange it directly for coin. Clydesdale Bank religiously enforce this policy, which is most odd, as the promise to pay on the notes states nothing about having to bank with the institution to see the promise fulfilled. It hardly engenders confidence in a bank when it waters down it's promise in such a way. Royal Bank of Scotland is patchy, some of their staff - with their Jobsworth of the year hat on - point blank refuse to fulfill the promise and exchange for coin, insisting you must open an account with them first, others exchange with a smile and no fuss. Only the Bank of Scotland and Lloyds Bank (BofS's parent company) seem to exchange their notes at any branch, for smaller value notes or coins, without any fuss whatsoever and attempting to impose additional, contractual conditions.

Interestingly, a very strange quirk with Scottish banknotes is that they have no 'legal tender' status in law. While Bank of England notes have legal tender status, Scottish ones, which are issued by commercial and not central banks, have none. They only have tender status by general convention, not through law or government decree, which is the benchmark requirement for a fiat currency. While personally I prefer them to BofE notes, Scottish banknotes are a sort of non-fiat paper currency, hence this is why Scots probably sometimes experience problems trying to spend them in England or exchange them abroad. I heard that there was once moves to change the law to give them legal tender status, but I don't think it ever got anywhere.

Paying attention to such considerations and practices might seem a trifle petty, but such are the uproarious and incredible times of global financial collapse, wealth destruction and potentially looming geoeconomic and geopolitical chaos in which we all live now, it's not in the least trifling to turn up at a bank and find it's doors closed, or be informed by a government that it's notes are worthless and no longer legal tender. Yes, following the worldwide bank run which ensued after the collapse of Lehman Brothers and the near collapse of many other US financial institutions, in October 2008 the UK was within hours of a crisis of that magnitude happening to our banks. Major UK banks not opening their doors. Cash machines not working. Internet and telephone banking operations all closed down. The government was even on the verge of fleeing London and retreating to the bunkers!

It has happened before. It will happen again somewhere. It always does. We all know the score. Wealthy elites would much rather the little man in the street absorb their losses, than their rich croneys. They've already achieved that by getting their way with all these austerity measures. Fiat currency default is one other way historically they have often achieved that. I doubt that this will ever happen in the west though, but it pays to hedge your bets.

After all when it comes to bloody revolutions it looks inevitable we will see a few more of them somewhere in the world before the global financial system implosion fully runs its course - much as though most people are generally against such things. Intra governmental revolutions (i.e. the Thatcher revolution) and those with oligarchical leanings, often get given free rein and support, given their loyalty to the powerful diktats of international capital. Extra governmental democratic revolutions, are often a much messier and more violent affair.

The currency system of an outgoing government is often the first to go, the banknotes replaced with the visage of some other leader in waiting. Defaults of this nature are thankfully rare, but remain distinct, low probability possibilities.

Interestingly though, the think tank, the Center for Economics and Business Research - in it's annual predictions for the year ahead - are predicting a 1 in 5 chance that the Euro wont survive the decade in it's current form. Note, the caveat "current form". It isn't a prediction that there is a 1 in 5 chance of the Euro collapsing, only that that there is a 1 in 5 chance of it being adjusted, recalibrated, reformulated in some way. However, given the Euro is the currency system of the entire continental Europe trading bloc, I find those incredibly high odds.
 
Creating an onshore nation is the only way to restore financial sovereignty
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 28 December 2010
On a conservative estimate, a third of the world's wealth is held offshore, with 80% of international banking transactions taking place there. More than half the capital in the world's stock exchanges is "parked" offshore at some point. The offshore aspect of the global economy is far from marginal; to a large extent it has captured any significant onshore economic activity that remains.

No representation without taxation etc.

Edit: Bailed-Out Banks Slip Toward Failure
Wall Street Journal DECEMBER 26, 2010
Nearly 100 U.S. banks that got bailout funds from the federal government show signs they are in jeopardy of failing.

The total, based on an analysis of third-quarter financial results by The Wall Street Journal, is up from 86 in the second quarter, reflecting eroding capital levels, a pileup of bad loans and warnings from regulators. The 98 banks in shaky condition got more than $4.2 billion in infusions from the Treasury Department under the Troubled Asset Relief Program.
 
gold only has value because people believe it does and it's value will change according to the market and conditions of production or conditions in countries that have gold reserves or gold mines - gold is a total red herring

Silver is probably a far better bet.
Cheap enough to be exchangeable as an alternative currency if everything goes totally tits up.
Not bad as a long term investment-
 
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