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Getting a good cup of coffee - again - is "espresso" really "best" ?

Several weeks later ...

This system makes very good coffee - but I reckon a lot of people would have real problems with the force involved - especially if you increase the loading by up to 50 percent to get a decent mug-full.

Perhaps I should try a coarser grind and a longer brew. I tend to do a lot of stirring and have even tried shaking as I press - though I don't think any of this makes much difference. The Aeropress makes a very consistent brew compared to my previous random techniques.

I've just tried a second infusion from the same coffee and though it was lacking flavour, it wasn't bitter.
 
This really is the bee's knees of coffee.

The body of French press, but quicker (30 seconds) due to the finer grind - and without the bits in your teeth - filtered but with no discernible papery taste.

Now I'm used to it, my standard grind is 24 grams - a scoop and a half - which gives me 3/4 of a mug at the strength I like.
Given I'm leaving a bit of flavour in the beans, I may extend the 30 second infusion time .
 
Wouldn't worry about it, gg. Law of thirds. First third sour, second third spot on, third third bitter.

If you're getting pretty close to a decent brew, I wouldn't bother trying to knife-edge it just to extract the last drops of "flavour" from 24g in 3/4 of a cup :)
 
I read once that the poor people in parts of South America only get to drink coffee made from left-over grounds. :(

Actually the "deuxième pression" doesn't taste much worse than coffee I've made badly in the past from knackered pre-ground, and to my palate preferable to premium instant.

I think the secret is that the grounds are compressed in the plug so not stewing or getting as oxidised as in a FP.
 
I have to say that I've not used another coffee production method since getting the Aeropress. Admittedly I do tend to overuse new gadgets, but it's been a while now, and it's just so much more convenient than anything else. The little vietnamese drip thing only produces tiny amounts and is too finicky - wrong temperature and/or wrong grind, it's just water or it doesn't drip through at all. The cafetiere is still the most reliable, but it takes a while to brew, I have to grind by hand for it and it's a complete pain to clean out. The mokka pot seems to use loads of beans and not actually produce a huge amount at the end of it, takes a long time, needs monitoring and is even worse to clean than the cafetiere.

If I just want a cup of damn coffee I can use the little whizzy electric grinder, which seems to work well enough for fine grinds, and have everything ready by the time the kettle's boiled. Thirty seconds or so to produce the coffee. And the main thing that really pisses me off about making coffee is disposing of the old grounds, which normally just go everywhere around the sink and the bin, and the Aeropress is just the best thing ever there - it doesn't get neater or easier.
 
And the main thing that really pisses me off about making coffee is disposing of the old grounds, which normally just go everywhere around the sink and the bin, and the Aeropress is just the best thing ever there - it doesn't get neater or easier.
Unless you're me !

It's one in the bucket for every two on the floor at the moment. :mad:

I hope to eventually get myself organised and grow mushrooms on the grounds - though at my low rate of consumption it will be a race against mould - though perhaps I'll be able to come up with a continuous system.

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No - The best coffee is the one made as you like it best. :)
Word. Bollocks to pissing about roasting this and grinding that in this or that contraption (unless that's the coffee the way you like it of course). A moka pot (or farteaire) of whatever looks like reasonable quality off the shelf fresh ground at the local super is my daily coffee of choice and no more than one cup a day is my personal rule. We have Taylors and Bettys shops in the town I live as well with all sorts on offer ground as you wait or sold as whole beans but fuck paying that sorta price for the little difference I find it makes.
 
Word. Bollocks to pissing about roasting this and grinding that in this or that contraption (unless that's the coffee the way you like it of course). A moka pot (or farteaire) of whatever looks like reasonable quality off the shelf fresh ground at the local super is my daily coffee of choice and no more than one cup a day is my personal rule. We have Taylors and Bettys shops in the town I live as well with all sorts on offer ground as you wait or sold as whole beans but fuck paying that sorta price for the little difference I find it makes.


Ignoring the £50I paid for the kit, my mug of coffee costs 60p.

Equipment :-

£50 for 100 mugs of coffee over a year = 50p a mug. (I only drink coffee on Saturday and Sunday).
So that's £1.10 a mug total

Hopefully this will actually last me at least 5 years -10p per mug.

so 70p a mug total.
 
Word. Bollocks to pissing about roasting this and grinding that in this or that contraption (unless that's the coffee the way you like it of course). A moka pot (or farteaire) of whatever looks like reasonable quality off the shelf fresh ground at the local super is my daily coffee of choice and no more than one cup a day is my personal rule. We have Taylors and Bettys shops in the town I live as well with all sorts on offer ground as you wait or sold as whole beans but fuck paying that sorta price for the little difference I find it makes.

I'd be interested in knowing how bettys / taylors measure up to e.g. Monmouth / square mile. One of the difficulties - IME - is that like you describe, a lot of 'posh' coffee isn't doing very much beyond what supermarkets do. It may've been however many years ago, when e.g. Whittard first rolled out. But however many years later, selling an *identifiable* / semi-traceable brand of bean is something that pretty much every supermarket'll be doing.

The difference in the quality of various coffees - IME / IMO - comes not only from the variety / type of bean; but - far more importantly - how recently it's been roast and ground. IIRC, we had a Taylors in Cam; when I ran out of beans (in my first year) I headed in there and asked how long it was since their beans'd been roasted, and neither of the people in there had a clue. Likewise Whittard. Likewise the 'speciality coffee' bloke who works in Cam market. IME, all three of them sell pretty much what you're describing - stuff that's thin, dead, and stale (which isn't too surprising, given all of them leave their beans out in the open air / in open-topped or regularly-opened drums.) Or, well... stuff that's very similar to what can be found in supermarkets, only at a significant increase in price.

At the same time... IMO, really good coffee just... isn't... that hard to identify. It's not like a wine snob thing (though some people go that way with hints and whifflings of this, that and the other). At the most basic level, if you were given a fresh-ground cup of really well-extracted, fresh-roast coffee I'd bank that you could taste a considerable difference between that and anything you'd get from a supermarket.

I was surprised - and delighted - to find that Monmouth in London do exactly that. And so do a fair few other places. But it's damned hard to find anywhere that really, really puts in the effort / goes the extra mile to secure the basics of fresh roast / fresh ground.

So, yeah, on the one hand, I kinda agree with what you're saying. OTOH, IMO there's a far broader picture there.

And I'd also fully agree that the most important thing is that people enjoy what they're drinking, whatever it is :D
 
Is the Skerton hand grinder that Square Mile sell good?

I just broke the ceramic ring widget in the Japanese hand grinder that I can't remember the name of, and a replacement would be useful.
 
Its all about the freshness of the roast as far as I can tell. I bought a really nice fresh bag last weekend and haven't started it yet :facepalm: it will still be nice when I drink it this weekend, but not as nice as it would have been on Monday.
 
Is the Skerton hand grinder that Square Mile sell good?

I just broke the ceramic ring widget in the Japanese hand grinder that I can't remember the name of, and a replacement would be useful.

Kyocera? Porlex?

I kinda crave a skerton. Love the look, and heard very good early reviews. Last time this came up, though, someone else (fractionman?) said they were a bit patchy. Might be worth searching for the post.

I'd also usually trust square mile completely with anything filter-related, which might complicate the picture a bit further.

Could always call Sqm. They tend to be extraordinarily helpful.
 
Its all about the freshness of the roast as far as I can tell. I bought a really nice fresh bag last weekend and haven't started it yet :facepalm: it will still be nice when I drink it this weekend, but not as nice as it would have been on Monday.

I've come across a couple of beans that've only really come alive in week 2 :D Never come across owt that isn't stale after 3 weeks, but some full beans (IME) take a bit of time to mature.
 
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