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yer man appears an ardent supporter of sinn fein
Gerry Adams exposed , his lies demolished at brothers rape trial
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sleaterkinney
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Our new poster is saying it was a war, which is it?
sleaterkinney
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Why the Irish accent pickman's?. Where did you get that from?
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do you think an insurgency isn't a war?
sleaterkinney
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Get what?
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sleaterkinney
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The "yer man"
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quoted for posterity.
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where's the irish accent in that?
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
He's a republican when he justifies the murder of innocents its okay
sleaterkinney
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you should be saying "This chap", no?
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sleaterkinney
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What would you say then?, Genuinely, I've never heard an English person use "yer man" before.
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you haven't heard it now either
sleaterkinney
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do you read posts or do you hear them?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
yer man is used throughout the british isles, not necessarily as in an irish accent. Thats some straws.
sleaterkinney
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Oh right, I generally write as I would speak, you don't?
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pls let me know when i have used the word 'chap' here.
sleaterkinney
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that's a) from three years ago and b) used because i'm patronising lock&light as opposed to how i normally type
MAD-T-REX
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A right to fight back against remembering the Irish people who died in combat during the World Wars?
Nutter.
All sounds so sweet when put like that, the reality is the British army was at war with the Catholic population, the IRA had every moral right to fight back, that included targeting their military displays.
When the British military sponsored MRF, FRU, UVF etc shot dead Catholics going to work or in the pub sentimentality never came into it.
Did the British army, RUC and their state sponsored counter gangs not attack IRA funerals ? Yet if I supported the IRA attacking British military pageants, that makes me a nutter. See how your thinking is flawed ?
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Casually Red
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how in the name of fuck is he a brilliant strategist ? certainly from a british point of view he is but from an Irish republican one ? for fucks sake
he completely eviscerated the Irish republican political and ideological position , that of the very basic and fundamental postion of Irealnds national sovereignty. Every last position the republican cause stood on, its very legitimacy, he ripped it asunder. He delivered ulsterisation, normalisation and criminalisation. By stealth, very deliberatley. He destroyed republicanism and replaced it with redmondism . set the whole thing back to 1915 . Irish republicanism has been completely and soundly defeated . We are simply in the mopping up stages today .
Casually Red
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whats terminal is they did away with the raison detre for using the weapons before they surrendered them to the queens representative, de chastelain . They, the provos, accepted that British sovereignty in Ireland was legitimate and Irelands right to national sovereignty illegitimate. They criminalised the weapons and the cause themselves. After accepting that even possessing the weapons never mind using them was an act of criminality against the lawful sovereign, mrs windsor . Whom their weapons were surrendered to via General De Chastelain, holder of the Queens commission.
when Gerry adams was scooped..handed himself in.. over the McConville killing he made very clear that the British forces had a perfectly legitimate right to arrest him over this action of the insurgency, he just questioned their timing , when it was he himself who arranged the timing. The political meaning behind this arrest is perfectly clear, it was Adams himself publicly criminalising the struggle. Telling the country and the world that the British forces have a perfectly legitimate right to arrest Irish republicans for all actions committed during the struggle. Legitimising the British position and criminalising the Irish one . His only complaint was something to do with an impending election, he doesnt quibble with their right to arrest him. In fact he publicly affirmed it . Consingning sovereignty to the dustbin and accepting criminalisation on behalf of all the insurgents , retrosepctively criminalisng the entire struggle during his press conference. The fact it was a foreign force of occupation violating his nations sovereignty never entered into the argument . Simply because in Adams argument, just like 8dens, there is no violation, no nation . Just a legitimate British force in Ireland.
Casually Red
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gerry adams certainly doesnt agree with you, hes with 8den on this one. And many others. He fully supports the legitmacy of the crown forces, the occupation and has made clear during his own arrest the the retrospective criminalisation of the struggle is legitimate too. Which was the sole purpose of is arrest as far as I can see, for him to confirm that in the most public manner possible.
By any definition hes a collaborator himself.
what doesnt allow for that strategy is the provos accepting british rule in Ireland is legitmate and lawful and Irish opposition to it an act of criminality .
id suggest you go back and read what the provos actully signed up to.
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