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Gerry Adams exposed , his lies demolished at brothers rape trial

Never mind Boston college. If Adams performance in the barracks is anything like his performance on the stand during the nonce trial thatll be an oral history and a half . If it comes out that he went in there and did a flat out no comment the papers will destroy him. So if hes answering questions he could easily trip himself up.
He released a press statement..actually 2. First that he would be available to answer questions, weeks ago. And another yesterday announcing he would voluntarily be attending a meeting with the filth. If hes just doing a no comment after that theyll make a laughing stock out of him. But if he starts talking god knows whatll come out of his mouth. Hes half bonkers afterall, especially in a scenario he cant control. He had a nervous breakdown in public after that Gerry McGeough encounter. And he lost the plot completely during the brothers trial.

If they hook him at all hell lose the plot again and squeal the heap.
 
He'll walk out and the first thing he'll say is 'I haven't gone away you know!'

Actually can't wait to see how this plays out hehe!
 
last time i was this excited it was who shot JR ??

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cameron was on the blower to McGuinness, the White house have been on the blower to Cameron . What a kerfuffle.

Secretary of State Theresa Villiers has said she was told on Monday that Mr Adams was expected to be questioned.


She said she was told by one of her officials, who had been told by a member of the PSNI.


"I noted it and obviously started to think through the potential consequences," she said.


Ms Villiers said the government was "in touch with Washington keeping them informed of the situation here".


On Friday, it emerged that it was Prime Minister David Cameron who had phoned Sinn Féin's Martin McGuinness the previous evening to discuss Mr Adams' arrest.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-27249495

Peter Hain showing a remarkable amount of gullibility there after Adams pulled the old I identify with the pain of these families routine with him . The very same fakery he pulled while identifying with the pain of his raped niece .
I know one family very well who Gerry Adams went to as a family freind over a certain issue extremely damaging to him he had a vested interest in having go away. He sat around their kitchen table and shared their pain. Within 24 hours of that family meeting with their long time family freind one of that family delegation was shot dead in broad daylight right in front of his mother and numerous other family members.
Although they denied it it was the provos who did it, the killers were identified by a string of witnesses. The next day Adams was on the telly expressing his sorrow at what happened in his laboured basso profundo tones, pointing out he shared their pain and expressing his condolences. Emphasising he was a long time family freind. The scum bastard, hes a fucking ghoul.

Its worth remembering that the McConville family embarassed Adams publicly when they revealed hed lied to them about being interned during their mothers killing. When Adams passed the info to Hain about the bodies location the searchers were sent to the wrong beach. They and the womans children were there for months digging fruitlessly. Many believe that was deliberate cruelty. I originally thought that was preposterous but knowing what I know now about how vindictive he was sending that book to his niece Im not so sure. Hes certainly capable of such a sickening and petty act.

The mans a ghoul.

 
they can hold him until 8 oclock tonight for questioning. After that theyll either have to apply to a judge for more time or release him which id expect is most likely. Highly unlikely hell be charged with anything in my view. Not with Obama on the blower and the DPP his long time advisor.
 
Guilty as a guilty thing but probably going to walk should have been a proper amnesty all round rather than this horrible farce doubt theres much reliable evidence from the seventies any of the rifles used in ballymurphy are in the hands of a 14 year old in serria leonie:(
 
Guilty as a guilty thing but probably going to walk should have been a proper amnesty all round rather than this horrible farce doubt theres much reliable evidence from the seventies any of the rifles used in ballymurphy are in the hands of a 14 year old in serria leonie:(

oh god why.

I'd occasionally see police checkpoints in Salone where the peelers might have the odd 70s-era FN, but armed 14 year olds are no longer a thing in SL, and haven't been since the civil war ended OVER A DECADE AGO.

Try to keep up, old chap.
 
Well loads of slrs were shipped to serria leone its where the rifles used for bloody sunday turned up:eek::facepalm:
 
i do recall being told that the subjects were extraordinarily candid about their roles in events. the involvement of boston college led people to trust them and I believe moloney was also a known quantity, he was considered to be someone who would do a good job of writing up their stories. but the interviewees were led to believe that the non disclosure agreement was something far more solid than it actually was. I think they were given the impression that the agreement would be legally binding, that courts would uphold it. which should IMO, never have happened.

In some ways, if a project like that was going to happen, it should have been embargoed for a number of years, get the information for future generations of historians, but accept it won't be used until all the major players of that period were dead. not just the interviewee. which would be frustrating for the people involved, but would have been a lot more sensible and ethical. my reasoning for this is that it is very likely that the other tapes will not be released now, and at least one other OH project looking at the troubles has been cancelled after this debacle.


"The IRA women had come for Jean McConville because they believed she had been acting as an informer, passing on low-grade intelligence to the local British army barracks about local members of the IRA. A small radio transmitter had been found in her apartment, and she had been arrested by the IRA and admitted her involvement."
According to Hughes.
1.So if this isn't true that McConville was a tout, as the State maintain, then from their perspective it poses a question about everythng else Hughes has said on the matter.

2. Price failed to mention any involvement in the abduction when volunteering evidence for the Boston tapes. Why?

3. The PSNI hoodwinked the American administration who according to Ed Maloney didn't do 'due dilegence' in accepting the PSNI account that some of what was said was already in the public domain.
In short they lied.

I'm just getting up to speed with this but I would say the political connivance between what SF refers to as 'dark forces' in the PSNI and dissidents elements is not an unreasonable conclusion to draw.

Finally the MConville family who have refused to name those they claim were involved even to police supposedly, announced tonight that they intend to launch a civil action should GA 'not be charged'.
Call me unduly suspicious if you like but it looks heavily choreographed to me.
 
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The family clearly feel they can go after Adams as he is high profile, whereas the local murderers that they know pose too great a risk. I don't see what is specifically suspicious about that.
 
I would say the political connivance between what SF refers to as 'dark forces' in the PSNI and dissidents elements is not an unreasonable conclusion to draw.

If you've got the time, and don't mind doing so, could you expand on that? As someone who needs to get up to speed on the background to this story, what motivates the 'dark forces' of PSNI to connive with the dissidents?
 
"The IRA women had come for Jean McConville because they believed she had been acting as an informer, passing on low-grade intelligence to the local British army barracks about local members of the IRA. A small radio transmitter had been found in her apartment, and she had been arrested by the IRA and admitted her involvement."
According to Francis Hughes.
1.So if this isn't true that McConville was a tout, as the State maintain, then from their perspective it poses a question about everythng else Hughes has said on the matter.
2. Price failed to mention any involvement in the abduction when volunteering evidence for the Boston tapes. Why?
3. The PSNI hoodwinked the American administration who according to Ed Maloney didn't do 'due dilegence' in accepting the PSNI account that some of what was said was already in the public domain.
In short they lied.
I'm just getting up to speed with this but I would say the political connivance between what SF refers to as 'dark forces' in the PSNI and dissidents elements is not an unreasonable conclusion to draw.
Finally the MConville family who have refused to name those they claim were involved even to police supposedly, announced tonight that they intend to launch a civil action should GA 'not be charged'.
I might be accussed of being unduly suspicious but it looks choreographed to me.

1.Well yeah and no it doesn't.
2. She didn't 'fail' to mention, she didn't discuss McConville on the Boston tapes.
3. Now that's collusion... which it isn't.

Connivance between Dark Forces of PSNI and Dissident/Jihadists...that's crackerjack mental.
 
If you've got the time, and don't mind doing so, could you expand on that? As someone who needs to get up to speed on the background to this story, what motivates the 'dark forces' of PSNI to connive with the dissidents?

Because the enemy of my enemy is my friend?
 
The family clearly feel they can go after Adams as he is high profile, whereas the local murderers that they know pose too great a risk. I don't see what is specifically suspicious about that.
yeh because adams doesn't know anyone who can do nasty things to anyone. and these minions do.

:confused:

you may want to rethink your analysis kropotkin.
 
Oh, that straightforward, eh? And do we suppose the connivance involves dissidents corroborating evidence from the tapes etc?

Nothing is ever straightforward.

And do we suppose the connivance involves dissidents corroborating evidence from the tapes etc?

Time will tell.

Unlike the dissidents themselves, I would be very reluctant to start casting aspersions at republican veterans.

And there is no evidence from the tapes, nor can there be. There is only - and can be - only hearsay.
 
1.Well yeah and no it doesn't.

JR: So you think they can accept his word on one bit of evidence and utterly reject it on another and still be plausible?
You wouldn't get away with that in Highbury Magistrates on a Monday morning which had a 98% conviction rate in the 1980's!

2. She didn't 'fail' to mention, she didn't discuss McConville on the Boston tapes.

JR: She seems to have been voluble enough about who was ultimately responsible after it became public and thus political.
 
Nothing is ever straightforward.



Time will tell.

Unlike the dissidents themselves, I would be very reluctant to start casting aspersions at republican veterans.

And there is no evidence from the tapes, nor can there be. There is only - and can be - only hearsay.
Yeah, right...thanks for that; I'm trying to get up to speed on this and hoping to do so without unduly pissing anyone off.

As you say the seized tapes could only provide hearsay, so presumably that's why the dissidents could be of use to the PSNI? For whatever reason, presumably some within their ranks could provide evidence that substantiates the hearsay?
 
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