General Election 2015 - chat, predictions, results and post election discussion

[Artaxerxes]

Was talking to my mates boyfriend last night, a labourer on a building site. Of those of his workmates who voted (he didnt) many voted tory because they reckon there's been more easier to find work since the tories have been in. He said nobody he worked with voted labour.

Probably true, shame what they are building is mostly private buildings by all accounts.

 

[danny la rouge]

A decent electoral system would help.

Wonder if Sturgeon will put something in the SNP manifesto for 2016 about certain red lines that could hint hint trigger a new Indy ref. Something like trident. If Labour/Tory press ahead then they look like they'd rather have trident than the union. Neither has any sway North of the border so a big yes to independence.

They probably will, but it won't be Trident. And it won't be centre stage.

Here's the thing that people don't seem to get: the SNP know they lost the referendum. They know that there is not enough appetite for another one so soon. They also know that they'd lose all over again if they had it any time soon. They have popularity and support just now. They won't throw that away by rushing in another referendum. They'll bide their time, building up good will, showing how bad the Union is. Then, when demand for a referendum builds, they'll say: "look, there's demand. We didn't force it, but it's what people want".

So, it'll be sooner than I thought on 19th of Sept last year, but not as soon as the London media thought on 8th May this year.

 

[gareth taylor]

They probably will, but it won't be Trident. And it won't be centre stage.

Here's the thing that people don't seem to get: the SNP know they lost the referendum. They know that there is not enough appetite for another one so soon. They also know that they'd lose all over again if they had it any time soon. They have popularity and support just now. They won't throw that away by rushing in another referendum. They'll bide their time, building up good will, showing how bad the Union is. Then, when demand for a referendum builds, they'll say: "look, there's demand. We didn't force it, but it's what people want".

So, it'll be sooner than I thought on 19th of Sept last year, but not as soon as the London media thought on 8th May this year.

far to left wing this forum

 

[DotCommunist]

far to left wing this forum

you know where the door is

 

[gareth taylor]

you know where the door is

I hate labour party bunch of knob heads who sleep with bankers blair and brown were the scumist

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

I hate labour party bunch of knob heads who sleep with bankers blair and brown were the scumist

You've really got the measure of this place. Staunch new labour blairites, that's us.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I hate labour party bunch of knob heads who sleep with bankers blair and brown were the scumist

Ah, that's it. Cos we're left-wing, we're all Labour Party supporters.

 

[danny la rouge]

far to left wing this forum

How 'far to', or 'far from'?

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Seems to be some possibility of TSG kicking off on the Downing St "fuck the Tories" event.

Be interesting to see how the propaganda outlets spin it.

 

[weltweit]

Was talking to my mates boyfriend last night, a labourer on a building site. Of those of his workmates who voted (he didnt) many voted tory because they reckon there's been more easier to find work since the tories have been in. He said nobody he worked with voted labour.

Indeed, I had a plumber round who thought the Tories needed more time in power to finish what they started. I was a little surprised he wasn't labour but there you are. /anecdote alert

 

[campanula]

Yep, I can't help scowling at people down the allotment wondering if they were secret tory voters.

 

[J Ed]

Seems to be some possibility of TSG kicking off on the Downing St "fuck the Tories" event.

Be interesting to see how the propaganda outlets spin it.

I imagine they will ignore it.

 

[bemused]

They now seem to have changed their minds on that, they no longer want full fiscal autonomy but fiscal independence, no prizes for guessing why they have moved the goal posts.

Oil under $100.

 

[jakethesnake]

I imagine they will ignore it.

It's heartening to see though and all power to the protesters!

 

[jakethesnake]

Be interesting to see how the propaganda outlets spin it.

A spontaneous expression of joy from a grateful populous at the re-election of our natural leaders.

 

[frogwoman]

Tbh i think labour might be finished except as a regional party.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Tbh i think labour might be finished except as a regional party.

Don't think so. For better or worse, they will gain a lot of those Scottish seats back next time, I'm guessing. They still polled 25 per cent in Scotland, it's just that their vote was exceedingly evenly spaced out.

 

[J Ed]

Tbh i think labour might be finished except as a regional party.

Labour spad on my facebook has been playing up how great the idea of founding the 'English Labour Party' would be, he makes nasty comments about Scottish people quite often and has done since I met him at uni

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Labour spad on my facebook has been playing up how great the idea of founding the 'English Labour Party' would be, he makes nasty comments about Scottish people quite often and has done since I met him at uni

This is someone employed by the Labour Party, yes?

Wow.

 

[J Ed]

This is someone employed by the Labour Party, yes?

Wow.

Yep.

Around the Scottish Indy referendum he actually supported independence on the basis that he wouldn't have to deal with "jocks" from the SLP anymore.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Their dismal campaign starts to make more sense.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Hell's teeth, look at this farce http://www.thepetitionsite.com/747/...d-2015-uk-election/?taf_id=13764593&cid=fb_na

 

[treelover]

Seems to be some possibility of TSG kicking off on the Downing St "fuck the Tories" event.

Be interesting to see how the propaganda outlets spin it.

fair numbers.

 

[frogwoman]

My mate was saying last night that she thought it might be rigged. I said i thought that was very unlikely.

 

[Steel Icarus]

BUT THE PENCILS!*

*that have always been used

 

[danny la rouge]

My mate was saying last night that she thought it might be rigged. I said i thought that was very unlikely.

Thanet South? Totes rigged. By lizards.

 

[treelover]

Seems to be some possibility of TSG kicking off on the Downing St "fuck the Tories" event.

Be interesting to see how the propaganda outlets spin it.

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totally ignored cancellation then!

 

[littlebabyjesus]

My mate was saying last night that she thought it might be rigged. I said i thought that was very unlikely.

One of the endearing things about British democracy is that it's mostly run by old ladies and gentlemen of a certain gentle kind, it's resolutely no-tech, and you don't have to prove id, but fraud, though it surely happens, happens only on a small scale.

It wasn't rigged. I only wish it had been.

 

[frogwoman]

Thanet South? Totes rigged. By lizards.

Her reasoning was that she didnt know anyone who had voted tory and reckoned that that many people couldnt have done it.

 

[treelover]

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