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If he got in it would have been a fucking disaster, but now he has to stand down as leader. And without him, they are nothing.

What the fuck are you on about? They'll replace him, probably with someone less obviously wanky.

3.5 million people have just voted for them but they're "nothing" without Farage?

Do us a favour.
 
Just playing with the results map on the Graun website. One of the things you can display is in which constituency different parties have gained support. Labour, the Tories and the Kippers are showing gains scattered across much of the country - and noticeably big gains in the case of the Kippers - the Greens across a swathe of the south and a fair few places further north, Plaid Cwmru in much of Wales, the SNP (obviously) all across Scotland and the Lib Dems ... nowhere. Absolutely nowhere. In not a single constituency did they increase their share of the vote over 2010.

I assumed that the Lib Dems were buggered because the bulk of their support came from the centre-left and would defect to Labour or the Greens, which they have up to a point, but a fair number of their ex-voters - more than I expected - seem to have jumped into the Tory camp, presumably because if you're going to vote for a Tory party you might as well vote for the original and worst.

*edit* Greens, not Greenwich: that's what three hours' sleep does for my typing. :oops:
 
What the fuck are you on about? They'll replace him, probably with someone less obviously wanky.

3.5 million people have just voted for them but they're "nothing" without Farage?

Do us a favour.
Name me three high-profile UKIP candidates that are instantly recognisable to the general public. Go on.
 
Strapline in the Graun, I don't know whether to laugh or cry

Nick Clegg – the inoffensive ordinary guy who could have been great :facepalm:

What world do they live in?

One thing about Clegg is his appearance of supreme, inoffensive ordinariness that belies his family’s exotic origins, the Russian and Dutch antecedents and even his Spanish wife. He could be the headmaster of a successful prep school, perhaps, or a model in a Boden catalogue, the kind of person who would be comfortable to chat to at the school gate.
 
Name me three high-profile UKIP candidates that are instantly recognisable to the general public. Go on.

Well his deputy is Paul Nuttal but that's not the point. You had never heard of Farage before he founded UKIP had you?

The fact is that UKIP have made huge voting gains and anyone who dismisses them as 'nothing without Farage', is an idiot.
 
Milliband giving it large about Labour being the party for social justice - what transparent bollocks. I've still got the poxy HoC headed notepaper with Fitzpatrick refusing to do anything about IDS's retrospective workfare legislation.

I can't think of a single noteworthy thing that Milliband has done. I'll remember his tenure as being a bland 5 years of doing nothing. He didn't even get round to the policies review he promised.
 
Name me three high-profile UKIP candidates that are instantly recognisable to the general public. Go on.
So? Most people have a hard time recognising members of the cabinet and shadow cabinet. How many people would have recognised Sturgeon before the Indy Ref?

UKIP will face challenges in the coming months, the leadership is going to have to try and keep people on board after only limited electoral success and with the Tories better placed to fight them. They need to thread a path by which they can keep both sides of the party on side. But 3.8 million people didn't vote for them just because of Farage.

EDIT: And even if UKIP collapse, those voters won't just vanish into thin air, they and their concerns will still be here
 
Carsee is pretty recognisable, and isn't a bad speaker tbf. Has come across well whenever I've seen him on TV
 
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