General Election 2015 - chat, predictions, results and post election discussion

[Andrew Hertford]

So pretty much just class war members and their mums then.

And nannies.

 

[Steel Icarus]

I just hope this government can sort out the mess left by the Coalition

 

[editor]

Well his deputy is Paul Nuttal but that's not the point. You had never heard of Farage before he became the leader of UKIP had you?

The fact is that UKIP have made huge voting gains and anyone who dismisses them as 'nothing without Farage', is an idiot.

Who the fuck is he? I've no idea who he is, what he looks like or what his beliefs are.

Farage was the face of UKIP. He was the person who people identified with, and as US-style personality politics takes over the UK politics, he was hugely responsible for making the party more attractive to voters and something that people could identify with.

Put in the UKIP fuckwits that are usually seen babbling incoherently in front of the cameras and they become a lot less attractive to voters. Maybe they'll find someone with enough charm to continue their shitty mission, but anyone who underestimates the influence a charismatic leader can have on a party, truly is an idiot.

 

[redsquirrel]

Carsee is pretty recognisable, and isn't a bad speaker tbf. Has come across well whenever I've seen him on TV

He's got to be the front-runner surely. IMO his problem will be the "northern", urban section of the party, will he be able to appeal to them? Or will he just be a ex-Tory?

 

[Pickman's model]

Well his deputy is Paul Nuttal but that's not the point. You had never heard of Farage before he founded UKIP had you?

The fact is that UKIP have made huge voting gains and anyone who dismisses them as 'nothing without Farage', is an idiot.

alan sked founded ukip

 

[DotCommunist]

maybe Hamilton will rise from obscurity and strike down the falange

 

[Pickman's model]

Milliband giving it large about Labour being the party for social justice - what transparent bollocks. I've still got the poxy HoC headed notepaper with Fitzpatrick refusing to do anything about IDS's retrospective workfare legislation.

I can't think of a single noteworthy thing that Milliband has done. I'll remember his tenure as being a bland 5 years of doing nothing. He didn't even get round to the policies review he promised.

he's resigned cesare, that's pretty memorable

 

[DotCommunist]

or kilroy-silk

 

[Pickman's model]

maybe Hamilton will rise from obscurity and strike down the falange

by obscurity do you mean drunken stupor?

 

[Belushi]

or kilroy-silk

wheres that picture?!

 

[redsquirrel]

Hell if we want to do unknown leaders how many people could have picked Blair out of a line up before John Smith croaked it.

 

[Barking_Mad]

Well his deputy is Paul Nuttal but that's not the point. You had never heard of Farage before he founded UKIP had you?

The fact is that UKIP have made huge voting gains and anyone who dismisses them as 'nothing without Farage', is an idiot.

That's Nuttall, not Nuttal.

 

[Pickman's model]

or kilroy-silk

 

[Pickman's model]

Hell if we want to do unknown leaders how many people could have picked Blair out of a line up before John Smith croaked it.

i could have

 

[Belushi]

 

[Roadkill]

If he got in it would have been a fucking disaster, but now he has to stand down as leader. And without him, they are nothing.

A few years ago I'd have agreed with you, and I still think that if Farage had been killed in that plane crash the Kippers probably wouldn't have got as far as they have, but the genie is out of the bottle now. They've got a much more coherent organisation, much more money, a much more identifiable brand, a solid voter base and a sense of momentum. It's not beyond the bounds of possibility it could all fall apart, but my guess is that unless they choose a complete idiot as their next leader then they're here to stay.

Not that I'm not smirking about Farage falling flat on his stupid face, of course.

 

[Pickman's model]

see post 3733

 

[cesare]

he's resigned cesare, that's pretty memorable

It's the only thing I will remember. Apart from the Wallace cartoons. Oh, and that bit of bother he got into with Unite and alleged ballot rigging.

 

[Pickman's model]

A few years ago I'd have agreed with you, and I still think that if Farage had been killed in that plane crash the Kippers probably wouldn't have got as far as they have, but the genie is out of the bottle now. They've got a much more coherent organisation, much more money, a much more identifiable brand, a solid voter base and a sense of momentum. It's not beyond the bounds of possibility it could all fall apart, but my guess is that unless they choose a complete idiot as their next leader then they're here to stay.

Not that I'm not smirking about Farage falling flat on his stupid face, of course.

tbh like fu manchu i don't suppose we've seen the last of falange

 

[editor]

Hell if we want to do unknown leaders how many people could have picked Blair out of a line up before John Smith croaked it.

Oh in that case, UKIP must be simply stuffed full of articulate and intelligent new leaders ready to lead them on to VICTORY.

 

[Belushi]

see post 3733

I had to google, you've obviously got it saved on your hard drive

 

[Pickman's model]

It's the only thing I will remember. Apart from the Wallace cartoons. Oh, and that bit of bother he got into with Unite and alleged ballot rigging.

and shafting the brother

 

[Roadkill]

tbh like fu manchu i don't suppose we've seen the last of falange

No, probably not.

 

[Pickman's model]

I had to google, you've obviously got it saved on your hard drive

a quick google for 'kilroy-silk slurry' gets the goods.

 

[cesare]

and shafting the brother

Sibling rivalry not helping cohesive Labour Party politics shocker

 

[DotCommunist]

is that shit or mud? cos thats a fair game-face for a man covered in runny shite, if it be that

 

[Pickman's model]

is that shit or mud? cos thats a fair game-face for a man covered in runny shite, if it be that

it's fucking SLURRY

 

[Barking_Mad]

I'm guessing that the issue is many Kippers would defect back to the Tories if the Tories drift right on immigration and Europe. It wouldn't take much. I know some.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm guessing that the issue is many Kippers would defect back to the Tories if the Tories drift right on immigration and Europe. It wouldn't take much. I know some.

1979 all over again etc

 

[Spymaster]

Who the fuck is he? I've no idea who he is, what he looks like or what his beliefs are.

Farage was the face of UKIP. He was the person who people identified with, and as US-style personality politics takes over the UK politics, he was hugely responsible for making the party more attractive to voters and something that people could identify with.

Put in the UKIP fuckwits that are usually seen babbling incoherently in front of the cameras and they become a lot less attractive to voters. Maybe they'll find someone with enough charm to continue their shitty mission, but anyone who underestimates the influence a charismatic leader can have on a party, truly is an idiot.

These cunts are a serious political party now with genuine support. They'll find another "charismatic" leader. They are by no means 'nothing without Farage'. Don't be daft.