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Look everyone, apologies, going through a lot of health shit lately. Not an excuse but I shouldn't be online in my current state. Sorry and goodbye.

Tbf, takes a lot to br aware enough to apologise. We've all been utterly berks before. :thumbs:

Clear your head, get better and when you're able, bang a message here about coming to a game (home or away) and ill make sure I'm there to get a drink in.

(said drink will probably be bovril)
 

At a time when transgender people are weaponised by politicians, media and those who would seek to profit from hate, games like these could not be more important. If you’re not aware a 16 year old transgender girl had her life brutally taken from her this week, perhaps for the sole reason of existing as a trans woman. Even in death there are many who cannot even give her the dignity of being herself, misgendering her online and in the media, scrambling like rats in the bins to discover her deadname. A school that cries crocodile tears at a pupil’s passing until it’s discovered they ignored years of transphobic bullying. As Dulwich supporter of over 30 years, the support given to me as a transgender woman by players, fans and management in the two years has been impressive but with the haters out to stop us even participating in the sport we love as they’ve already done in both codes of rugby, swimming, triathlon and soon athletics it’s now we need to stand up as a club, as players and as fans, to ensure that football remains a game for all regardless of gender or sexuality. As someone who has found her confidence and strength in playing this game again after too long away to be excluded from playing football by bigots simply because of who I am would break my heart.
 
That feels like a relief at this point
I think it's a double edged sword. Win at Hampton (or even get a draw with a good performance) and we miss an opportunity to back it up with a home win against another struggling opponent. Lose again at Hampton and we'll be even worse off by the time we begin a sequence of matches against teams much higher in the table. Right now, one point from the last 9 games with 26 goals conceded is shocking. I recall losing 8 consecutive matches while Peter Crouch was with us. (His debut was the fifth game in that sequence.) We ended that with a draw at Heybridge Swifts before winning 3-0 at home to Aylesbury in his final game for the club, but I don't recall conceding so many goals.

The default response in a crisis like this is to focus on stopping the goals against and making yourself harder to beat, even if it means a dull low scoring draw, but so far I've seen no sign of achieving this. We're still passing the ball around in our own half and coming unstuck against quick thrusts from the middle third when we've committed players forward, then lost the ball.
 
I honestly can't recall a time when we were all so negative. I hope this isn't the start of long decline.
 
I honestly can't recall a time when we were all so negative. I hope this isn't the start of long decline.
My main immediate concern is that the stadium redevelopment goes through as smoothly as possible. Forcing a judicial review was clearly a cynical tactic to delay the whole thing as long as possible on the basis that such projects may fall through for other reasons if they can be obstructed for long enough. (See the nimbys opposing HS2 for a prime example.)

Worst case short-term scenario is we go down this year. We may not bounce back but as long as we're playing decent football and pushing for promotion I don't see why we can't sustain our attendance figures. The new ground should reduce our overheads and give us a degree of security and certainty we don't currently have.

We also need build a whole development structure below both men's and women's first team level. I don't know what happened to Dulwich Hamlet Juniors and all their age group teams. At one time there was a photograph of a 10 year old Kenny Beaney in a Hamlet shirt in the club programme playing for the Juniors and he ended up as club captain during our promotion to National South, but all that seemed to fall by the wayside during the Aspire Academy era. For a self-proclaimed community football club it's pretty unimpressive that we only seem to have three teams: men's and women's first team plus women's reserves. There are clubs with a fraction of our first team attendance figures that appear to have dozens of other teams under their umbrella. Realistically we're never going to climb higher than National League, simply because we're never likely to gain planning permission for a Football League standard stadium even if money was no object. National South is probably our "natural level". Maidstone are both struggling to compete one step higher and our whole ethos precludes selling out to the sort of benefactor who would want majority ownership of the club, which suits me fine.
 
My main immediate concern is that the stadium redevelopment goes through as smoothly as possible. Forcing a judicial review was clearly a cynical tactic to delay the whole thing as long as possible on the basis that such projects may fall through for other reasons if they can be obstructed for long enough. (See the nimbys opposing HS2 for a prime example.)

Worst case short-term scenario is we go down this year. We may not bounce back but as long as we're playing decent football and pushing for promotion I don't see why we can't sustain our attendance figures. The new ground should reduce our overheads and give us a degree of security and certainty we don't currently have.

We also need build a whole development structure below both men's and women's first team level. I don't know what happened to Dulwich Hamlet Juniors and all their age group teams. At one time there was a photograph of a 10 year old Kenny Beaney in a Hamlet shirt in the club programme playing for the Juniors and he ended up as club captain during our promotion to National South, but all that seemed to fall by the wayside during the Aspire Academy era. For a self-proclaimed community football club it's pretty unimpressive that we only seem to have three teams: men's and women's first team plus women's reserves. There are clubs with a fraction of our first team attendance figures that appear to have dozens of other teams under their umbrella. Realistically we're never going to climb higher than National League, simply because we're never likely to gain planning permission for a Football League standard stadium even if money was no object. National South is probably our "natural level". Maidstone are both struggling to compete one step higher and our whole ethos precludes selling out to the sort of benefactor who would want majority ownership of the club, which suits me fine.
There was a major falling out at the time of Gavin’s arrival when just one of Ian Neal’s successful Junior side was selected to move across to the Aspire Academy. Those bridges were burnt then and to my knowledge never been rebuilt.
 
It was after this successful Junior squad that defeated Gavin’s Academy side that the schism really took hold.
 
At least Daniel Craig's done well for himself.

His word is his bond after all.


It was after this successful Junior squad that defeated Gavin’s Academy side that the schism really took hold.

Not long after that we had another youth team Cup final that we lost. I mention it because it was held in Chatham, at Lordswoods rather splendid ground and we lost 5-7 after being 4 nil up at half time. :D
 
Not long after that we had another youth team Cup final that we lost. I mention it because it was held in Chatham, at Lordswoods rather splendid ground and we lost 5-7 after being 4 nil up at half time. :D
That was Gavin’s Academy side. I’ll need to see if I can dig out the squad but quite a few of that side broke into the first team or moved on upwards.
 
With the debacle around our Youth team/section are we entering the FA Youth Cup next season?
Cut off date for entry is April 1st
Personally I’d have hoped that as part of the plan to create the Academy which was referred in the Peter Crouch documentary we’d have looked at other options beyond creating an academy from scratch. I’d have thought building bridges with Dulwich Hamlet Junior Section would have at least have been explored as an option.
 
It appears to be a pay per view streaming service, priced at £9.50, or £180 for DHFC to show it in the clubhouse:

Yes, I see the club have just tweeted about that. I'm not clear whether this affects our ability to show highlights post match or not?

I can't see the club showing it in the clubhouse unless they could guarantee a certain number of people watching (pre-pay entry). It's not just £180 to show it, but cost of bar staff, stewards, energy etc. to open up and run it.
 
Seem to remember from one of his programme notes that Ben Clasper was wary of the live streaming of games on the League’s service, I think because of the impact it could have on attendances and the extent of the financial benefit passed to the clubs being streamed from the League.

From the look and feel of the various Tweets from the clubs included this afternoon, I’d guess the League are forcing their member clubs to participate and promote.
 
Seem to remember from one of his programme notes that Ben Clasper was wary of the live streaming of games on the League’s service, I think because of the impact it could have on attendances and the extent of the financial benefit passed to the clubs being streamed from the League.

From the look and feel of the various Tweets from the clubs included this afternoon, I’d guess the League are forcing their member clubs to participate and promote.
We usually stick two fingers up to the National League when they insist on us doing something that we don't agree with, so I'd see it more the Club are simply letting DHFC fans know it's available rather than promoting it because they want to.
 
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