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Any recommendations for masks that don't involve elastic behind the ears (which i find kinda uncomfortable and gets tangles with glasses?)
 
Any recommendations for masks that don't involve elastic behind the ears (which i find kinda uncomfortable and gets tangles with glasses?)
I've just got a pack of what's described as: Bandana Multifunctional Headwear Face Scarf Wide Seamless Headwrap Balaclava Tube Neckwarmer for Dust,Outdoors,Sports Festivals
They work much better than the elasticated masks, especially if you wear glasses - you can have them higher up your face and perch your glasses over them and not have them get steamed up like you do with the other type. They feel much less claustrophobic. I don't think I could spend a whole workday with a mask on but I could with one of these snood things
 

Thanks - tried and I wasn't very good at it

Rubber gimp mask?

disapproving look over glasses

I've just got a pack of what's described as: Bandana Multifunctional Headwear Face Scarf Wide Seamless Headwrap Balaclava Tube

Thanks - know what to search for now.

Maybe this one?

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What is this from? I mean, there's obviously a cultural reference or something but what is it?
A plague mask. During the Black Death, disease was thought to be caused by miasma (bad smells). These masks were worn by doctors visiting plague-ridden areas. The end of the “beak” would have a nosegay with fragrant herbs in it, to flush out the miasma and protect the wearer
 
A plague mask. During the Black Death, disease was thought to be caused by miasma (bad smells). These masks were worn by doctors visiting plague-ridden areas. The end of the “beak” would have a nosegay with fragrant herbs in it, to flush out the miasma and protect the wearer

Did it work?
 
isn't enforcing the bylaws of public transport already the job of the BTP?
if someone refuses to wear a mask, some volunteer can't exactly kick them out the train station can then.
My thinking too :hmm: likely the transport companies need more staff to manage this and the government won't pay. Hence volunteers?
 
Was reading an article in the Guardian, there is a section of the scientific community what are saying the total impact of the virus is overstated. Clearly, if you get very sick, these aren't words you much care for, but the article at the bottom, is saying no matter what action governments have taken, the virus appears to peak then dies off.

This is hard to disagree with the point of view, it's being born out across the world apart from Iran, they are saying its testing regime is massively improved hence the numbers, deaths aren't on the rise yet, so bear this out.

Perhaps the virus is letting incompetent governments off the hook.
 
Perhaps to some degree :hmm:

Sadly the UK government has been a disaster from start to finish on this and are still responsible for larger deaths per million than most of the world.

We don't have the evidence to say that yet; if the view offered at the end of the article that Sunray linked to is right, then govt action may have been - broadly - irrelevant, and we don't yet know if that view is right or wrong.

It's possible that countries like the US and the UK have worse Covid death figures because they also have worse underlying health in their wider populations - which we already have quite a lot of evidence for, and also explanatory theory for, ie that countries with higher degrees of social inequality also have worse obesity, worse chronic disease rates, lower fitness rates etc etc.
 
Was reading an article in the Guardian, there is a section of the scientific community what are saying the total impact of the virus is overstated.

I've got to be honest and I took flak on the Sweden thread for saying this but I think there is quite a bit of evidence that this might be the case. That doesn't mean it wasn't worth acting on the basis of a worse scenario initially, but we should be ready to re-assess where things are.
 
Actions taken by the population have had an effect, there is no doubt. The more robust the action the better the outcome.
Limp wristed like the dumbass brigade like we have at the moment, 50000+ dead in a small country.

I'm really hoping its fizzling out for the time being. I also believe its possbile to eradicate, but feel the current government isn't capable of that as an outcome.
 
We don't have the evidence to say that yet; if the view offered at the end of the article that Sunray linked to is right, then govt action may have been - broadly - irrelevant, and we don't yet know if that view is right or wrong.

It's possible that countries like the US and the UK have worse Covid death figures because they also have worse underlying health in their wider populations - which we already have quite a lot of evidence for, and also explanatory theory for, ie that countries with higher degrees of social inequality also have worse obesity, worse chronic disease rates, lower fitness rates etc etc.
May be true to a small extent.

New Zealand might have a healthier population than us? Certainly the Germans do. However that is no way an argument for the death per million we have managed.

By 'we' I mean almost solely this disgraced government and their feckless, greedy friends.
 
Nobody lives in New Zealand. Nothing happens.

No WuHan -> Auckland/Wellington trade route because the Chinese don't know New Zealand exists. The Chinese often miss it off maps.

Bit racist too, look funny at the airport and you're deported.
 
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