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This morning I had an embarrassment.
In addition to posters in my front window, I stuck a "thank you" on the wheelie bin and the guy looked like he assumed there would be a fiver in the plastic bag - made me feel a bit patronising. :oops:

Do you mean that people where you are are writing thank you on plastic bags with money included and attaching them to wheelie bins? Otherwise I don't understand, sorry - you did a nice thing, you thanked them.
 
Do you mean that people where you are are writing thank you on plastic bags with money included and attaching them to wheelie bins? Otherwise I don't understand, sorry - you did a nice thing, you thanked them.
I don't know what others are doing - there's a Facebook group ... all the enthusiasm for things seems to be further down the street ... I'll see if someone realises it's my house with the posters and stuff and brings up the subject ...

I tried to think of the right thing to say in Aldi and the deli later and failed ... it all seems so inadequate ...
 
I don't know what others are doing - there's a Facebook group ... all the enthusiasm for things seems to be further down the street ... I'll see if someone realises it's my house with the posters and stuff and brings up the subject ...

I tried to think of the right thing to say in Aldi and the deli later and failed ... it all seems so inadequate ...

Don't feel bad for not putting money out - they're out doing their job as quickly as they can so they won't be looking for money on top of bags or whatever. It is good to say thank you, and just be polite, keep your distance, etc. I know what you mean though.
 
This is a great story

Residents confined to their homes in a corner of northern Paris have been plunged back to one of the darkest moments of the city’s past.

Two streets – Rue Berthe and Rue Androuet – in Montmartre in the shadow of the Sacré-Coeur basilica have been left in a timewarp of the Nazi occupation after they were returned to 1942 for a film set.

The film-makers were forced to abandon the set when France went into coronavirus lockdown, leaving the streets with fake facades for corset shops, tailors, a shoe repairer and mirror-maker, and dotted with war propaganda, anti-communist tracts and signs in German.


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Town was dead - as if most humans had been abducted by aliens. A bit weird - but at least I could walk straight across major roads without even bothering to look as there is barely any traffic at all.

I didn't bother to look yesterday and nearly got run over by a fucking electric car, the silent ninja bastard
(Yes, i know it was my fault, I just felt like such a fool, not looking before I crossed the road. I am a cockwomble. I know)
 
I didn't bother to look yesterday and nearly got run over by a fucking electric car, the silent ninja bastard
(Yes, i know it was my fault, I just felt like such a fool, not looking before I crossed the road. I am a cockwomble. I know)

Nearly happened to me the other week. I have a deaf friend and realized that she's going to be a lot safer crossing the road with these around than I am.
 
I'm going to see if the next few days give me a chance to take something of a break, at least compared to my quantity of posts over the last 2 months. I am repeating myself too much and rather than have the same conversations over and over again, I would rather wait till I have a bit more data about various countries including the UK, if I am lucky then such data might give me something new to say.
 
So many threads, really have no idea where this should go... hopefully here is OK.

 
I wonder if we could have a civilian PPE and hygeine thread. Things that people are doing to stay safe, sharing tips and tricks, trying to get a handle on worries, best gloves and masks etc.

Several people on here have been talking about how they avoid bringing the virus home with them, I’ve learned some stuff from them. But also I need to retain some perspective: I worked in a food shop today and brought some groceries home with me. It took me almost 90 minutes to feel as if I and everything I’d brought home was clean enough for me to eat and relax.
 
I wonder if we could have a civilian PPE and hygeine thread. Things that people are doing to stay safe, sharing tips and tricks, trying to get a handle on worries, best gloves and masks etc.

Several people on here have been talking about how they avoid bringing the virus home with them, I’ve learned some stuff from them. But also I need to retain some perspective: I worked in a food shop today and brought some groceries home with me. It took me almost 90 minutes to feel as if I and everything I’d brought home was clean enough for me to eat and relax.
Still under self-imposed quarantine, but speaking to friends about it, they've been following Hong Kong approach of cleaning soles of shoes with bleach, putting clothes in wash and immediately showing on return.

I've run up a bleach spray to clean packaging and surfaces, but do try not to get too OCD about it. Realistically, we're not going to make homes aseptic theatres, but can reduce the risk, and the number/condition of any viral particles that do sneak through. Research is of course continually ongoing, but biggest risk appears to be aerosol from face-to-face contact with an infected person, not a bag of Walkers.
 
Seen more people walking about and in cars wearing masks. Is there any point? My understanding was that they are only useful for preventing infection from face to face. contact. I. E You don't get it from the air but from n infected surfaces and being within 2 meters of someones sneezy bits.
 
Still under self-imposed quarantine, but speaking to friends about it, they've been following Hong Kong approach of cleaning soles of shoes with bleach, putting clothes in wash and immediately showing on return.

I've run up a bleach spray to clean packaging and surfaces, but do try not to get too OCD about it. Realistically, we're not going to make homes aseptic theatres, but can reduce the risk, and the number/condition of any viral particles that do sneak through. Research is of course continually ongoing, but biggest risk appears to be aerosol from face-to-face contact with an infected person, not a bag of Walkers.

You are also adding a risk of skin burns if your throwing bleach everywhere. Be careful.
 
Seen more people walking about and in cars wearing masks. Is there any point? My understanding was that they are only useful for preventing infection from face to face. contact. I. E You don't get it from the air but from n infected surfaces and being within 2 meters of someones sneezy bits.
It stops you from touching your own face, and acts as a strong prompt to keep up all the other social distancing practices.
 
Influx of new delivery drivers today on Amazon yard to cope with volume of parcels!
 
Still under self-imposed quarantine, but speaking to friends about it, they've been following Hong Kong approach of cleaning soles of shoes with bleach, putting clothes in wash and immediately showing on return.

I've run up a bleach spray to clean packaging and surfaces, but do try not to get too OCD about it. Realistically, we're not going to make homes aseptic theatres, but can reduce the risk, and the number/condition of any viral particles that do sneak through. Research is of course continually ongoing, but biggest risk appears to be aerosol from face-to-face contact with an infected person, not a bag of Walkers.
I did my first trip a to a supermarket yesterday since all this started, so I was wondering how much of this sort of stuff to do on my return. I was careful whilst I was there, and wore a face covering (not a proper mask) and gloves, sanitised my hands before driving. I decided not to disinfect what I'd bought.

The worst risk infection I think was from/to the people stacking the shelves. They had no PPE (don't think even gloves) and people weren't giving them 2 metres, nor they trying to give customers space. Must be a very difficult job to do and maintain the required distance though, but I'm not sure what other approach would work. I was told off by one shopper for not following the arrows round the aisles, but tbf they weren't so obvious in some places, and I generally shop by leaving my trolley somewhere and nipping into aisles for things.
 
It stops you from touching your own face, and acts as a strong prompt to keep up all the other social distancing practices.

Hmmm.

I was abroad (SE Asia) when the shit really started hitting the fan with all this and moving around countries and airports I saw a lot of people wearing masks. The conclusion I came to is broadly the UK government has the right line on this.

I saw a lot of masks being worn as chin warmers. I saw people taking masks down to talk, to drink and to eat. I saw people constantly adjusting their masks and I even saw a few people lifting the mask to their face every time they passed near someone. In short I saw people with masks constantly touching their faces, far more than people without.

I came to the conclusion that unless you're extremely disciplined with mask use (and that is put them on and don't touch them again) then the use of masks is actually counter productive. There is also the other issue that we know the virus can live on surfaces for a number of days (depending on the surface). If your mask isn't brand new and sterilized who's to say the mask itself isn't contaminated and in that case you're about to have it attached to your mouth and nose for how many hours...? That seems a sure fire way to get ill and far more dangerous then brushing your nose with your sleeve.

Another weird thing I've noticed recently was when I had to go to the supermarket, the mask wearers were one of the worst groups for not respecting distancing, like the masks gave them super immunity or something. Make of that what you will.

My conclusion. Unless you're in a medical setting just make sure you don't touch your face and regularly wash your hands.
 
So many threads, really have no idea where this should go... hopefully here is OK.

NFU vice president was calling for exception to minimum wage for fruit & veg pickers yesterday 😡
 
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