General Coronavirus (COVID-19) chat
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phillm
Trolling through Life (TM)
If you have become a trawling obsessive there is some organic stoneground wheat amongst the chaff... plus a stone-aged forum software that died out about 10 years ago everywhere else.
mumsnet always used to be solid middle-class liberal back in the day - one of it's founders is Alan Rusbridgers wife iirc - a friend of mine briefly had a Comment is Free column off the back of being a prolific poster over there... Things must have changed considerably if they're now a hive of tories.
Cribynkle
squawk
They had a post yesterday suggesting a thread on here as a useful resource...
Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
Coronavirus will bankrupt more people than it kills — and that's the real global emergency
We may look back on coronavirus as the moment when the threads that hold the global economy together came unstuck
www.independent.co.uk
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
French Catholic Shrine’s “Healing” Waters Shut Down Due To Coronavirus
Oops.
friendlyatheist.patheos.com
editor
hiraethified
1%er
Well-Known Member
This pandemic could also be very bad news for many workingclass people as news reports in the financial press suggest a number of big companies are going under.
Cineworld Group plc who own almost 100 cinemas in the UK have issued a statement saying "The worst case scenario for the coronavirus outbreak, with moviegoers in the UK and US staying at home for three months, this would lead to “material uncertainty” and “may cast significant doubt about the group's ability to continue as a going concern”. Their shares were down 50% on the day which can only make things worse for their employees.
Finablr who own Travelex and Xpress Money as well as other companies has also said that the lack of people traveling and foreign exchange services have been hit hard by travel restrictions imposed to limit the spread of coronavirus could push them under, with the loss of many jobs. Their shares have dropped by 77% on the day and has put massive pressure on their finances. They also employ lots of people.
Intu (formerly Capital Shopping Centres Group plc) the company that owns a number of very big shopping centers in the UK look like it is going under, they lost over £2billion last year and have debts of £4.5billion that they can not refinance. While their problems are not down to COVID-19 people staying away because of the virus could well push them over the edge according to news reports. That would mean all the shops in some of the biggest shopping centers in the UK could close on their sites (a list of their sites can be found here, it includes intu Derby, Eldon Square in Newcastle, Lakeside, Merry Hill, Trafford Centre, Manchester Arndale Centre and many others)
This is just 3 companies of many that believe this virus could mean many job losses.
Cineworld Group plc who own almost 100 cinemas in the UK have issued a statement saying "The worst case scenario for the coronavirus outbreak, with moviegoers in the UK and US staying at home for three months, this would lead to “material uncertainty” and “may cast significant doubt about the group's ability to continue as a going concern”. Their shares were down 50% on the day which can only make things worse for their employees.
Finablr who own Travelex and Xpress Money as well as other companies has also said that the lack of people traveling and foreign exchange services have been hit hard by travel restrictions imposed to limit the spread of coronavirus could push them under, with the loss of many jobs. Their shares have dropped by 77% on the day and has put massive pressure on their finances. They also employ lots of people.
Intu (formerly Capital Shopping Centres Group plc) the company that owns a number of very big shopping centers in the UK look like it is going under, they lost over £2billion last year and have debts of £4.5billion that they can not refinance. While their problems are not down to COVID-19 people staying away because of the virus could well push them over the edge according to news reports. That would mean all the shops in some of the biggest shopping centers in the UK could close on their sites (a list of their sites can be found here, it includes intu Derby, Eldon Square in Newcastle, Lakeside, Merry Hill, Trafford Centre, Manchester Arndale Centre and many others)
This is just 3 companies of many that believe this virus could mean many job losses.
QueenOfGoths
Fuck you Dave!
Back into work after a day off yesterday and some of the shelves not just loo roll and hand wash, have been decimated (photos below, so those shelved are usually chocker).
The poor online shoppers are facing Christmas levels of orders but without the level of staff who normally help out then.
The poor online shoppers are facing Christmas levels of orders but without the level of staff who normally help out then.
Every word that self serving cunt say's is chilling.
This is probably one of the more honest thing the cunt has ever said, chilling or not.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Whereabouts is this? Round here there are empty shelves for a random selection of items (instant noodles, tinned kidney beans, crisps) but generally it looks like business as usual.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Johnson could lose his own mother and think of nothing besides the opportunity to bury some bad news. It's what he just did with his engagement and the prospect of his first acknowledged child.
FWIW I have no idea is his mother is still alive. Probably he doesn't either.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Yeah very grim. There's been a few shivers down my spine moments over this in the the last few weeks.
QueenOfGoths
Fuck you Dave!
Maidenhead
QueenOfGoths
Fuck you Dave!
We are short of those plus soup, pasta, flour, yeast, dried beans /lentils, UHT milk, eggs, tinned veg and chocolate!
Some of the pubs and bars around here, and cafes aren't exactly clean, especially the Toilets, they bare going to have to up their game
Why hasn't the Govt announced more stringent measures for business hygiene, toilets cleaned regularly, etc?
This might not really fit the thread title but here's the governments instructions for how to self isolate.
It asks things of people that sounds pretty much impossible if you live with other people especially children and do not have a vast mansion.
[Withdrawn] COVID-19: guidance for households with possible coronavirus infection
Stay at home guidance for households with possible coronavirus (COVID-19) infection.www.gov.uk
Ah, but the top politicians, civil servants, do have large houses, etc, they also don't seem to realise many young people now live in shared houses, sometimes 7 or 8 in one house.
Bubble beginning to have real consequences with C19.
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Apols if this has already been put up, but an (Emeritus) Professor of Behavioural factors in Anti-Microbial Resistance has tweeted this thread on the assumptions that he thinks the UK state's strategy for herd immunity are based upon:
Interesting, if scary.
Interesting, if scary.
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
It is. The approaches are poles apart too. One response is to treat it almost like Ebola, to isolate and kill the outbreak off. The other is to build herd immunity, so pretty much purposefully allow it to spread.
Theres an extended interview with him on the podcasts which is great too (recorded a few days later)
Reno
The In Kraut
Here in Berlin everything non-essential has shut down. No clubs, bars, gyms, theatres and cinemas. Last week was still normal and now it feels like the apocalypse has arrived. It’s odd, looking at life in London on Facebook, where so far it’s business as usual. I see my friends posting from clubs, gigs, the theatre, etc. I‘m worried about the NHS not coping once severe infections hit critical mass.
I hope this means that we’ll get over this quicker in Germany and that normal life can resume in a couple of months. I was already going stir-crazy just because of winter and now spring has been cancelled. I’m more scared of getting lonely, bored and depressed rather than of getting the virus. I’ve at least got the cat. My workplace, the Berlin LGBT+ Center, has reduced its services and cancelled all social events. I hope it will stay open, just so I’ll get out of the house.
One thing about Germany which so far is remarkable is the low death rate. Its been explained to be down due to early testing, but can that be all ? We have roughly 4600 diagnosed infections but only 9 deaths. France has a slightly lower number of infections but over 90 deaths. Could it be that there are different strands ?
I hope this means that we’ll get over this quicker in Germany and that normal life can resume in a couple of months. I was already going stir-crazy just because of winter and now spring has been cancelled. I’m more scared of getting lonely, bored and depressed rather than of getting the virus. I’ve at least got the cat. My workplace, the Berlin LGBT+ Center, has reduced its services and cancelled all social events. I hope it will stay open, just so I’ll get out of the house.
One thing about Germany which so far is remarkable is the low death rate. Its been explained to be down due to early testing, but can that be all ? We have roughly 4600 diagnosed infections but only 9 deaths. France has a slightly lower number of infections but over 90 deaths. Could it be that there are different strands ?
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Today's Guardian piece by Dr William Hanage a Harvard professor of the evolution and epidemiology of infectious disease is quite something and troubling.
Summed up quite succinctly by this quote:
Summed up quite succinctly by this quote:
editor
hiraethified
Bloody hell:
www.independent.co.uk
Austria bans gatherings of more than five people over coronavirus
People allowed out of homes only for work, food shopping and helping others
www.independent.co.uk
Reno
The In Kraut
Germany has just closed its borders to neighbouring countries.
www.dw.com
Coronavirus: Germany to partially close some borders – DW – 03/15/2020
German authorities have decided to reimpose controls on the nation's borders with France, Austria, Denmark, Luxembourg, and Switzerland. Commuters would still be allowed to travel. Follow DW for the latest.
www.dw.com
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I did a grocery run early this morning. The shelves were bare of toilet paper, soup, pasta, pasta sauce, canned fruit and veggies, rice, and beans. There was plenty of everything else.
There were plenty of fresh foods. They had (very helpfully) moved all of the cheap alcohol to the front of the store and there was ample supplies.
I overheard a clerk say that their supply truck "is a couple of hours late" and they'd expect to have full shelves later in the day.
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Once again the kid who packed the sacks put my bananas on the bottom of the bag.
There were plenty of fresh foods. They had (very helpfully) moved all of the cheap alcohol to the front of the store and there was ample supplies.
I overheard a clerk say that their supply truck "is a couple of hours late" and they'd expect to have full shelves later in the day.
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Once again the kid who packed the sacks put my bananas on the bottom of the bag.
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