Orang Utan
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Sorry, haven’t been paying attention to variants - thought you could only get it once like other viruses
So did I. That's why I'm wondering why friends and colleagues who had it in December, have it again now.Sorry, haven’t been paying attention to variants - thought you could only get it once like other viruses
I'm not up on it either- it seems way more rife in London than up here - still don't really know anyone who's had it or is even worried about it, though we're all taking the right precautionsSo did I. That's why I'm wondering why friends and colleagues who had it in December, have it again now.
You know I'm not up on the science, fair m asking because of the implications for real life this term.
I'm sure it'll come. This variant is so contagious.I'm not up on it either- it seems way more rife in London than up here - still don't really know anyone who's had it or is even worried about it, though we're all taking the right precautions
That’s quite likely isn’t? Remember we all used to get weird mystery viruses all the time beforeIs it possible that this second bout of illness isn't actually Covid, and is actually a cold? They might still be testing positive from the first bout, while suffering from a second, non-Covid virus.
It's possible but it's just weird it's happening to quite a few people I know.Is it possible that this second bout of illness isn't actually Covid, and is actually a cold? They might still be testing positive from the first bout, while suffering from a second, non-Covid virus.
But would be people have been getting Delta in London in December, wasn't it all Omicron?
See the graphs in this tweet for the proportions of omicron and delta in December. It's still possible to catch delta, though getting rapidly less likely.
Not really, the tests are very specific. A week ago, 75% of colds were covid, symptoms are the same.Is it possible that this second bout of illness isn't actually Covid, and is actually a cold? They might still be testing positive from the first bout, while suffering from a second, non-Covid virus.
elbows or anyone else.
do pandemics work where there issay an "end day". like a turning point where hte scientists start saying, "yes, it's over". like something the data releals that means the virus from that point is suddenly then fully and irreversibly on the back foot? or does the tpossibility of new variants squash the idea of such a day/period?
not a loaded question, just a layman quetion arising in my layman's mind.
You obviously didn't read/understand my post, as per.Not really, the tests are very specific. A week ago, 75% of colds were covid, symptoms are the same.
Everyone I know got it and is pretty much recovered now.
No getting away from this virus this time, so highly infectious impossible to avoid now unless you don't leave the house.
Even thats not a guarantee as one person I knew did that, and still got it.
I think there's probably some formal definition of what counts as a pandemic and what doesn't, and at some point Covid will cross some threshold of cases or transmission rates or whatever the metric is and the WHO will declare it is over.elbows or anyone else.
do pandemics work where there issay an "end day". like a turning point where hte scientists start saying, "yes, it's over". like something the data releals that means the virus from that point is suddenly then fully and irreversibly on the back foot? or does the tpossibility of new variants squash the idea of such a day/period?
not a loaded question, just a layman quetion arising in my layman's mind.
The scientific and expert communities incorporate a range of different attitudes and complete consensus can be elusive. For example we already saw a bunch of experts in the UK trying to spend a big chunk of 2021 creating the impression that we were moving to a new phase, with talk of it becoming endemic, of not worrying too much about variants, and of the prospect of no more giant waves in 2021. Obviously that narrative went pear shaped, but it will be back again in the wake of the Omicron wave. Many other experts had no intention of jumping the gun in that way in 2021, but if things go ok then we will see their attitudes evolve plenty in 2022.elbows or anyone else.
do pandemics work where there issay an "end day". like a turning point where hte scientists start saying, "yes, it's over". like something the data releals that means the virus from that point is suddenly then fully and irreversibly on the back foot? or does the tpossibility of new variants squash the idea of such a day/period?
not a loaded question, just a layman quetion arising in my layman's mind.
Even during the period when Omicron was rising to dominate there were still plenty of Delta cases around, and its only far more recently that I would stop making claims about there still being plenty of Delta about.But would be people have been getting Delta in London in December, wasn't it all Omicron?
This is top sciences.In regards my response to the 'end day' question, here is a glimpse of the new evolution of comments about the future that we'll get as a result of Omicron:
Omicron could be ‘first ray of light’ towards living with Covid
UK government scientist predicts possibility of less severe variant but warns ‘we’re not there yet’www.theguardian.com
But as Covid cases continued to rise in the UK and hospitalisations at their highest in almost a year, he said “we’re not quite there yet”.
I’m so used to working in an environment in which mask wearing has never been mandated, that I often don’t notice whether customers have masks on or not, even though I’m supposed to ask people to wear themIs anyone else finding that general mask-wearing in shops has, if anything, gone down since before xmas (when it wasn't required at all)? The last few times I've been to supermarkets it's been maybe 50% tops.
I'm aware that epidemiologically speaking this is a fairly minor vector compared to schools, workplaces, hospitals, etc but it's the one I encounter regularly so it makes me anxious.
We got loads of 25 packs that were meant for nursing homes, which we’ve had to redirect. Omnishambles isn’t it?Was a bit of a dispiriting week for the Covid Testing folk.
Last two deliveries of LFT Self Test Kits have both been 50% lower than required. We have had to restrict supplies to key workers (including NHS staff and schools who are also getting little or none) let alone the general public. All of whom are being told by our disgraced #ToryScum government to test more. Not to bother with a PCR test but do daily LFT tests instead.
The last delivery consisted of boxes of 20 rather than 7 home LFTs. So I had staff unpacking them and making up bags of 5 or 10 so we could at least give some to people in need. Deconstructing hundreds of boxes then repacking them on bags is a seriously long and boring gig
Had a woman last week kick off because she paid tax and wanted a sealed box. I 'politely' told her that it was that or nothing. Her response was to hang around for 20 mins saying nice things like 'why did that NHS bitch get a sealed box and I can't have the same? You didn't even ask if I was a nurse.'
(she was wearing a company name badge ffs )
Then accused me of racism and risking the lives of her family.
(she was not even wearing a mask )
Took a photo of me and told me she would let the public know what type of man I am.
All good fun
To add to this fun our Tuesday delivery if stock was delayed till today and has not arrived. So will not be here till Monday at the earliest and likely not the quantity we needed a week ago.
Not much fun telling care homes (and all key workers) there are no tests for them.
Is anyone else finding that general mask-wearing in shops has, if anything, gone down since before xmas (when it wasn't required at all)? The last few times I've been to supermarkets it's been maybe 50% tops.
I'm aware that epidemiologically speaking this is a fairly minor vector compared to schools, workplaces, hospitals, etc but it's the one I encounter regularly so it makes me anxious.
Fucking farcical. Pretty consistent with general government performance throughout #ToryScumWe got loads of 25 packs that were meant for nursing homes, which we’ve had to redirect. Omnishambles isn’t it?
It is not yet clear whether the shift in tropism seen in omicron hasn't also been accompanied by a significant change in disease pathogenesis in another direction (as oppose to just a reduction in a previously dominant presentation). For example, that the typical severe disease pathway could shift from a shorter term respiratory focus to a longer term one of sequelae arising from the vasculopathy of resultant COVID-19 (it has been suggested that there are increased incidences of greatly elevated signals of microclotting in omicron patients). Other evolutionary paths may be available.Variants of concern have clearly proven to have been a stumbling block when it comes to these tidy narratives and declarations that the end is in sight. Far less experts will probably be willing to make loud noises about how confident they are that there will be no more variants with big implications in future.