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bcuster
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I catapulted off the deck of a US aircraft carrier in a largely windowless prop plane the Navy's been flying since the 1960s. It was jarring and intense.
This Business Insider reporter recently flew on a Grumman C-2 Greyhound to and from the aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower.
www.businessinsider.com
bcuster
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Airbus seems to've won the medium haul award
In 2018, Ed Pierson decided that he could no longer work as a senior manager for Boeing’s 737 MAX program.
At the company’s production facility in Renton, Washington, he had watched as employee morale plummeted and oversight and assembly procedures faltered. He told his superiors but retired soon after. But then fatal MAX 8 crashes occurred in 2018 and 2019. He decided to speak up...
In 2018, Ed Pierson decided that he could no longer work as a senior manager for Boeing’s 737 MAX program.
At the company’s production facility in Renton, Washington, he had watched as employee morale plummeted and oversight and assembly procedures faltered. He told his superiors but retired soon after. But then fatal MAX 8 crashes occurred in 2018 and 2019. He decided to speak up...
bcuster
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Didn't think anything like this could happen on 787
www.businessinsider.com
50 people were hurt, including 12 sent to the hospital, after a Boeing 787 dropped sharply in midair
A Latam Airlines spokesperson told Business Insider a "technical event" during the Boeing 787 flight had "caused a strong movement."
www.businessinsider.com
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Why you should keep your seat belt on…
Even loosely !
You don’t want to hit the ceiling when the plane drops a few hundred meters.
Alex
T & P
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Boeing whistleblower found dead in a car park. Let the conspiracies begin....
Boeing whistleblower John Barnett found dead in US
Prior to his death, John Barnett was testifying against Boeing over concerns about standards.
www.bbc.co.uk
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Boeing whistleblower found dead in a car park. Let the conspiracies begin....
Boeing whistleblower John Barnett found dead in US
Prior to his death, John Barnett was testifying against Boeing over concerns about standards.www.bbc.co.uk
Add a bit of this to the mix...
bcuster
Well-Known Member
The sudden drop of a Boeing 787 that injured 50 people may have been caused by a flight attendant accidentally hitting a switch in the cockpit, report says
Boeing issued a memo on Thursday telling airlines to inspect the switches on the pilot's seat for loose covers, The Wall Street Journal reported.
www.businessinsider.com
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Chz
Stark Raving Sane
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Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
"When one door closes, another opens.” — Boeing Engineers
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It’s good news Boeing are in a duopoly and Airbus are sold out of narrowbodies for several years, because if there were other options available now, their commercial airplanes division would be as good as fucked. From ‘If it’s not Boeing I’m not going’ to Americans increasingly seeking to book domestic flights on Airbus models. Boeing have only themselves to blame too.
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Some travelers are changing flights to avoid Boeing airplanes
Incidents involving Boeing aircraft have set back passengers who had overcome their fear of flying. "I am not willing to take that risk," one said.
kalmatthew
Lurker Extrodinaire
Even if they weren't in a duopoly unless the thrid player was a is company they still wouldn't be allowed to fail.It’s good news Boeing are in a duopoly and Airbus are sold out of narrowbodies for several years, because if there were other options available now, their commercial airplanes division would be as good as fucked. From ‘If it’s not Boeing I’m not going’ to Americans increasingly seeking to book domestic flights on Airbus models. Boeing have only themselves to blame too.
Some travelers are changing flights to avoid Boeing airplanes
Incidents involving Boeing aircraft have set back passengers who had overcome their fear of flying. "I am not willing to take that risk," one said.
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No, I guess the saying too big to fail probably would apply here given how big a company it is.
petee
no gods, no malarkey
in fact ...
"Top antitrust enforcer Lina Khan said national champion strategy has been 'catastrophic' for U.S.
"Boeing effectively became too-big-to-fail and a point of leverage for countries seeking to influence policymaking." "
kalmatthew
Lurker Extrodinaire
Yeah and in reality it isn't just the US that would suffer if they failed and probably the only people who would have a decent chance of being able to run it well as a takeover would be airbus.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
It’s good news Boeing are in a duopoly and Airbus are sold out of narrowbodies for several years, because if there were other options available now, their commercial airplanes division would be as good as fucked. From ‘If it’s not Boeing I’m not going’ to Americans increasingly seeking to book domestic flights on Airbus models. Boeing have only themselves to blame too.
Some travelers are changing flights to avoid Boeing airplanes
Incidents involving Boeing aircraft have set back passengers who had overcome their fear of flying. "I am not willing to take that risk," one said.
Last summer the most convenient flight for us from Cancun to Mexico City was a 737 Max-8, I booked one two hours later specifically to avoid that. And I have a number of punters who have asked us to make notes in their traveller profiles that they will not fly on the Max 8. Of course there's 100's of them flying every day without incident, but...
kalmatthew
Lurker Extrodinaire
"If it's Boeing I'm not going"
Quick question of interest how do you deal with that as an agency if there is a last min equipment change?
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
We don't, we wouldn't normally even be informed of that, perhaps if they have seats allocated and they were going to change we'd get a notification. If that were to happen and people didn't want to fly they would need to change their flight in teh same way as any other reason they may have for changing it, so any fare differences or penalties would need to be paid. Had a fairly extreme case travelling next week, Bengaluru to Singapore with Singapore Air, normally on an A350, the passenger wanted to change to a day later, that was a 737 Max8, he opted to stay as he was. tbf the A350 has flat beds in business vs upright ones on the Max8, but he's one who has asked never to be on the Max8.
kalmatthew
Lurker Extrodinaire
Would the information even show in the booking systems? Becuase if so this feels like the sort of functionality that people might request, especially if things get to a point where enterprises say you can't fly on X aircraft
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Yes, when you ask for availability it comes back as this (Cancun-Mexico City, 10th June with Aero Mexico):
The circled bit is the aircraft type, 7M8 is the 737 Max8.
7M7 is the 737 Max7
7S8 is 737-800
The circled bit is the aircraft type, 7M8 is the 737 Max8.
7M7 is the 737 Max7
7S8 is 737-800
kalmatthew
Lurker Extrodinaire
Thanks, ever since I started seeing some of the things works travel agents could do I've always found these sorts of systems oddly fascinating so always enjoy your posts that show a little insight into things.
pseudonarcissus
fluttering and dancing
Terrible news from my travel agent last night..
"O trecho LPA / MAD e MAD / CDG só tem na classe Bussines e o sistema só permite tarifa todos na Business"
The LPA / MAD and MAD / CDG sections are only available in Bussines class and the system only allows all fares in Business
It means I'm going to just have to put up with business class all the way from Paris back to Rio. I guess it's a holiday weekend.
"O trecho LPA / MAD e MAD / CDG só tem na classe Bussines e o sistema só permite tarifa todos na Business"
The LPA / MAD and MAD / CDG sections are only available in Bussines class and the system only allows all fares in Business
It means I'm going to just have to put up with business class all the way from Paris back to Rio. I guess it's a holiday weekend.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
It's fine, they'll be delayed and you'll spend Easter in CDG... 
petee
no gods, no malarkey
posted for info, i don;t have the experrtise to comment.
