General aviation/airplane news and chat

[DownwardDog]

My times on B757s were on busy short haul routes where a B737/a320 wasnt quite big enough which influenced my puzzling of why a 'big' B737 no longer exists and I vaguely remember the airlines route map included some longer routes presumably served by the same plane. My first time in B767 was also a busy short haul route, and another an less busy atlantic route.

The "big" 737 does exist - the 737 MAX10. That seats 230 pax which is about the same as a 757-200.

Boeing only ever sold about 50 757-300 out of over 1,000 built so they realised the market for a 250+ seat narrow body basically doesn't exist. Hence the 787-8 can be configured down to 220.

 

[bcuster]

Amelia Earhart's plane found? Here's what we know

"This is maybe the most exciting thing I'll ever do in my life," said former U.S. Air Force intelligence officer and pilot, Tony Romeo.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Chz]

I like how the video says "little" is known of their fate. That's a fairly optimistic take on "nothing at all".

 

[Chz]

I like how the video says "little" is known of their fate. That's a fairly optimistic take on "nothing at all".

Actually, as my missus has corrected me, unless they found the secret to eternal life we do know that they're dead.

 

[T & P]

Actually, as my missus has corrected me, unless they found the secret to eternal life we do know that they're dead.

They could have been beamed up to a sympathetic alien spaceship monitoring the situation as the plane ran out of fuel and started to dive towards a watery grave, mind.

 

[petee]

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

United still flies 757’s to places like Edinburgh…

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Amelia Earhart's plane found? Here's what we know

"This is maybe the most exciting thing I'll ever do in my life," said former U.S. Air Force intelligence officer and pilot, Tony Romeo.

www.newsweek.com

if you ever feel undervalued, just remember Amelia Earhart wasn't alone in that plane when it vanished...

 

[bellaozzydog]

Gatwick north terminal fully evacuated with a fire alarm

Fortunately I’m four hours early for my flight……

 

[skyscraper101]

There was a fire alarm last time I was at Stansted. I was waiting at the gate to depart. Everyone just seemed to ignore it.

 

[bellaozzydog]

All out and all back in in 35 minutes

Not a bad effort really

 

[T & P]

I know it’s only £5-£7, but still… it really pisses me off that airlines charge for wifi in the first place, and far more so than it doesn’t work for half the time. I actually got a message recently on the BA wifi landing page telling me that I should bear in mind the plane might not acquire a wifi signal when flying over large bodies of water and away from land. Well, then don’t sell me wifi on such routes you thieving twats.

 

[Storm Fox]

Jet powered Cri-Cri:

 

[bcuster]

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[petee]

you guys like airplanes so much, why don't you just go live in one

https://www.cnn.com/travel/people-living-in-planes/index.html

 

[HAL9000]

Prelininary report, bottom of page 16.

completed on September 19, 2023, by Spirit
AeroSystems personnel. Photo documentation obtained from Boeing shows evidence of the left-hand MED plug closed with no retention hardware (bolts)

photo on next page.

https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Documents/DCA24MA063%20Preliminary%20report.pdf

 

[bcuster]

Airplane passenger shocked by ‘gaffer tape’ all over Boeing 787 wing: ‘What the hell!?’

"It began peeling off mid-flight, I thought, 'What the hell!?'" exclaimed the appalled traveler.

www.yahoo.com

The Queen of the Air held together by packaging tape...

 

[T & P]

And the winner of the ’Most Absurd Grounding’ award goes to…

The Morning After: United Airlines grounded its new Airbus fleet over ‘no smoking’ signs

The biggest news stories this morning: Sarah Silverman’s copyright lawsuit against ChatGPT gets reduced, Nothing's next phone will debut on March 5,

www.engadget.com

I often wonder why aircraft manufacturers still bother to include them in their newly-built models at all. Is there a single airline left in the world of sufficient size to require buying any commercial jet models offered by Boeing or Airbus that still allow smoking?

Bahnhof Strasse Do you ever get requests from customers for smoking flights nowadays?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

And the winner of the ’Most Absurd Grounding’ award goes to…

The Morning After: United Airlines grounded its new Airbus fleet over ‘no smoking’ signs

The biggest news stories this morning: Sarah Silverman’s copyright lawsuit against ChatGPT gets reduced, Nothing's next phone will debut on March 5,

www.engadget.com

I often wonder why aircraft manufacturers still bother to include them in their newly-built models at all. Is there a single airline left in the world of sufficient size to require buying any commercial jet models offered by Boeing or Airbus that still allow smoking?

Bahnhof Strasse Do you ever get requests from customers for smoking flights nowadays?

No, but if I ask my booking system for the flight details it will show date, time, route, mileage, aircraft type and whether smoking is allowed or not, been a very long time since there was a Y in that box.

They still put ashtrays on the doors in toilets as they would rather folk used them than flushed them down the bog if having a crafty one.

 

[gosub]

Still can on some at the private jet end.

That's trade war type behaviour from the FAA not that they haven't done it before over passenger seats. This sort of shit undermines regulatory bodies... automated smoking signs is a no no but Boeing can write their own regs

 

[T & P]

No, but if I ask my booking system for the flight details it will show date, time, route, mileage, aircraft type and whether smoking is allowed or not, been a very long time since there was a Y in that box.

They still put ashtrays on the doors in toilets as they would rather folk used them than flushed them down the bog if having a crafty one.

I'm going to guess that might be because they're chemical toilets that might ignite if someone chucks in a lit fag end?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I'm going to guess that might be because they're chemical toilets that might ignite if someone chucks in a lit fag end?

Dunno, general fire risk I suppose.

A flight to Naples a few years ago was in row 1 and some geezer nips in to the bog and the smoke alarm goes off, the crew open the door from the outside, make him put it out and march him back to his seat, he didn’t suffer any penalty as far as I know. As he went past the stench off him was shocking, and at that time I was a smoker too.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Fwiw of the mainstream carriers I think Saudia was the last one to ban smoking, always thought it was fairly pointless being able to smoke and not have a beer…

 

[kalmatthew]

I thought it was less they didn't want you putting it in the loo, more they didn't want you putting it in the little bit full of paper towels that probably aren't wet enough not to catch fire!

 

[nogojones]

Airplane passenger shocked by ‘gaffer tape’ all over Boeing 787 wing: ‘What the hell!?’

"It began peeling off mid-flight, I thought, 'What the hell!?'" exclaimed the appalled traveler.

www.yahoo.com

The Queen of the Air held together by packaging tape...

I'd trust their 737 max's doors more if they used the odd bit of gaffer tape

 

[T & P]

I thought it was less they didn't want you putting it in the loo, more they didn't want you putting it in the little bit full of paper towels that probably aren't wet enough not to catch fire!

You would expect that the extremely small proportion of passengers selfish enough to light up in a plane’s toilet would be certain to extinguish it fully by wetting it first, to avoid triggering the smoke alarms if nothing else.

But come to think of it, if the risk of the extremely small number of passengers who ever risk lightning up in the toilet is significant enough for airlines to request ashtrays be installed, all those terrorists rotting in jail after being caught trying to smuggle explosives or the liquids required to make a bomb misses must feel like a right twerp when they realise all they needed to have done is set some toilet paper on fire and stuff it down the toilet seat or the bin.

 

[gosub]

You would expect that the extremely small proportion of passengers selfish enough to light up in a plane’s toilet would be certain to extinguish it fully by wetting it first, to avoid triggering the smoke alarms if nothing else.

But come to think of it, if the risk of the extremely small number of passengers who ever risk lightning up in the toilet is significant enough for airlines to request ashtrays be installed, all those terrorists rotting in jail after being caught trying to smuggle explosives or the liquids required to make a bomb misses must feel like a right twerp when they realise all they needed to have done is set some toilet paper on fire and stuff it down the toilet seat or the bin.

It's not going to burn the plastics in a lav but it will mark them ..Best avoided at a secondary redundancy level

 

[Lancman]

When the RAF first introduced Britannia aircraft for Family “trooping flights” to the Far East there was a sudden increase in turn-round times at staging posts down the route which were caused by the drain valves for the toilets, which had to be drained and re-charged at every flag-stop, jamming either open or closed. This was caused by a mixture of nappies and filter-tipped cigarette ends getting stuck in the works. A specialist tradesman on every shift had to be trained to clear this problem whilst neither damaging the drain valves and flushing pumps nor suffering gross loss of personal dignity. He was known as “the cotton pickin’ bastard”.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Repairing the hull of the Graf Zeppelin whist flying over the Atlantic Ocean...

 

[petee]

Dunno, general fire risk I suppose.

A flight to Naples a few years ago was in row 1 and some geezer nips in to the bog and the smoke alarm goes off, the crew open the door from the outside, make him put it out and march him back to his seat, he didn’t suffer any penalty as far as I know. As he went past the stench off him was shocking, and at that time I was a smoker too.

did he appear shamed?

Repairing the hull of the Graf Zeppelin whist flying over the Atlantic Ocean...


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