Game of thrones season 8 [contains spoilers]

[joustmaster]

What questions are left open at this point then? Whats not been answered?

 

[DexterTCN]

It's made far too much money not to have offshoots.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Who gets the throne
Does Bronn kill either or both Lannister bros
Do we get Cleganebowl
Is Bran all the Brans including Bran the Builder
What twist will there be involved Arya's ability to wear dead people's faces
Is Samwell the historian of all of this
Do Grey Worm and Missandei get the happy ending they deserve

Etc, etc

 

[moochedit]

Do you think they'll make a prequel? Covering the wars between the first men and the fucking wood elves or whatever they are?

I have read that there are a number of prequel ideas in development, I expect they'll make at least one.

They are already making one, but I'm not sure exactly what era it's covering.

Hbo have ordered a pilot episode for one of the prequel ideas set about 8000 years before the current series. Not much else is known about it yet. There are some other prequel scripts but only one pilot ordered so far.

 

[moochedit]

HBO News - What to Know About the Game of Thrones Prequel

Game of Thrones prequel pilot to film this summer

 

[Steel Icarus]

8000 years in the past is when the wall was built

 

[DotCommunist]

I'm always wary of for-cash prequels, goes double if the author of the original hit is dead. See: Dune books

 

[Santino]

I'm most interested to see whether Westeros 8,000 years ago will look any different, or whether they'll still be in brown medieval world.

 

[Lord Camomile]

I'm most interested to see whether Westeros 8,000 years ago will look any different, or whether they'll still be in brown medieval world.

That's what I was wondering. Maybe maigc'll be more commonplace? Even though it's obviously featured more heavily in later series, still feels like most people ares surprised when they see it and the general culture is "magic is of the past, if it ever existed at all".

 

[moochedit]

I'm always wary of for-cash prequels

Phantom menace springs to mind

But i'll give it a go.

 

[Santino]

That's what I was wondering. Maybe maigc'll be more commonplace? Even though it's obviously featured more heavily in later series, still feels like most people ares surprised when they see it and the general culture is "magic is of the past, if it ever existed at all".

I'm thinking more whether they'll have crossbows and paper and steel. Or will it be more like Iron Age Britain? Or an advanced civilisation that would later descend into barbarism before a later renaissance?

It always annoyed me in Lord of the Rings that no technological progress ever seemed to have happened (although of course that in a sense reflects the ahistorical view of people in the past).

 

[Gromit]

I have read that there are a number of prequel ideas in development, I expect they'll make at least one.

Howland And Eddard go to White Castle.

 

[Cloo]

I think Arya migh kill Cersei, or nearly kill her (and if she fails, she creates the opening for Jaime to kill Cersei), get killed by Undead Mountain, who is then properly killed by Hound, possibly while laughing manically and throwing both of them into a fire.

 

[donkyboy]

I'm always wary of for-cash prequels, goes double if the author of the original hit is dead. See: Dune books

you obviously haven't seen better call saul

 

[ferrelhadley]

They are based on the Mongols but Martin's based his research on 5 minutes on wiki and the worst parts of the rants of the victims of the fall of Baghdad and Kiev.

Quite the achievement since the books came out about 5 years before Wikipedia started.

 

[ferrelhadley]

I thought the thread might be interested in this; Strategic mililtary analysis of the Battle of Winterfell in Game of Thrones

tl;dr - the Dothraki were fucked whatever they decided to do.

Its a good analysis. I think a lot of people have failed to grasp the sheer size of the undead horde and the incredible difficulty in fighting at night without modern optics. Also just how increadibly unwieldy horses are, it takes something like 6 square meters to turn horse, anywhere you need to move horses in any direction other than forward, you are going to take time. That mass coming at you is not going to give you time. Say you order a general retreat with the cavalry behind the infantry (as many though they should be). How many hours is it going to take to get 30 000 horses into Winterfell.

I found it a fun and exciting episode of TV, the reactions afterwards have been silly (other than those who struggled with it visually). People have large cavarly forces completing complex combined manoeuvres in pitch black against a telepathically controlled inhuman force. Good luck with that plan.

 

[SpookyFrank]

What questions are left open at this point then? Whats not been answered?

What happened to Meera?

 

[SpookyFrank]

Brown Eyes, Green Eyes, Blue Eyes.

That mostly made me think of 'Temptation' by New Order. Which made for a weird mental soundtrack to the rest of the episode.

 

[maomao]

What happened to Meera?

She went back to Greywater to protect her family after seeing Bran safely to Winterfell.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Its a good analysis. I think a lot of people have failed to grasp the sheer size of the undead horde and the incredible difficulty in fighting at night without modern optics. Also just how increadibly unwieldy horses are, it takes something like 6 square meters to turn horse, anywhere you need to move horses in any direction other than forward, you are going to take time. That mass coming at you is not going to give you time. Say you order a general retreat with the cavalry behind the infantry (as many though they should be). How many hours is it going to take to get 30 000 horses into Winterfell.

I get how Miguel Sapochnik likes to show things from the characters' perspectives, and that none of them would actually have got a decent look at the army of the dead, but it did feel a bit of a cop out to not even give a real sense of the scale of the enemy horde.

The montage of people we care about who are all about to die, just like they were five minutes of screen time ago, and still will be after the next whole scene happens, that was just poor. No need for it. The whole thing could have been edited down to an hour IMO, and been the better for it. If Brienne or Tormund or whoever aren't relevant to the plot don't keep returning to them in a way that gives the viewer no new information. I can see why Jon was there as a sort of red herring character but you don't need half a dozen of those. Arya's scenes, Bran and Theon's, those were great and they should have been the focus.

 

[joustmaster]

Was that masked magic woman in the hot sand lands explained?

 

[Orang Utan]

Its a good analysis. I think a lot of people have failed to grasp the sheer size of the undead horde and the incredible difficulty in fighting at night without modern optics. Also just how increadibly unwieldy horses are, it takes something like 6 square meters to turn horse, anywhere you need to move horses in any direction other than forward, you are going to take time. That mass coming at you is not going to give you time. Say you order a general retreat with the cavalry behind the infantry (as many though they should be). How many hours is it going to take to get 30 000 horses into Winterfell.

I found it a fun and exciting episode of TV, the reactions afterwards have been silly (other than those who struggled with it visually). People have large cavarly forces completing complex combined manoeuvres in pitch black against a telepathically controlled inhuman force. Good luck with that plan.

You do know it's all made up and that tv audiences know or care nothing about historical battle tactics?

 

[Orang Utan]

Nerds ruin the fun of EVERYTHING

 

[DexterTCN]

I'm thinking more whether they'll have crossbows and paper and steel. Or will it be more like Iron Age Britain? Or an advanced civilisation that would later descend into barbarism before a later renaissance?

It always annoyed me in Lord of the Rings that no technological progress ever seemed to have happened (although of course that in a sense reflects the ahistorical view of people in the past).

 

[ferrelhadley]

Nerds ruin the fun of EVERYTHING

 

[donkyboy]

What happened to Meera?

who cares.

 

[ringo]

That was great. Managed not to get anything spoiled other than it was very dark (so watched it in the dark, looked great and frightening) and guessing from hints that Arya did what she'd been trained to do for 8 seasons.

The battle was epic, and only once started to get a bit boring. Genuinely really tense and at times frightening, the fear of hardened fighters seemed very believable. The dothraki charge and fading lights was one of several stunning set pieces which really conveyed the overwhelming fear and hopelessness which cut through the scenes.

It would have been better if Martin had written more it. The politics and infighting are what raised it above other dramas in the first place, and Tyrion and Varys being virtually written out of it in favour of pure action made it more like other recent films and telly, but that's quibbling when it's the best TV currently being made and hugely entertaining.

 

[maomao]

The politics and infighting are what raised it above other dramas in the first place, and Tyrion and Varys being virtually written out of it in favour of pure action made it more like other recent films and telly, but that's quibbling when it's the best TV currently being made and hugely entertaining.

Well seeing as they've tied up the action plot three episodes early hopefully they're planning some intrigue and backstabbing to finish it off. They'll be looking to get a couple of surprises in anyway.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Well seeing as they've tied up the action plot three episodes early hopefully they're planning some intrigue and backstabbing to finish it off. They'll be looking to get a couple of surprises in anyway.

Grapevine says EP. 5 is gonna be action.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Grapevine being Emilia Clarke. "Episode Five...find the biggest TV you can"