Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Tyrion you little wanker
Game of thrones season 8 [contains spoilers]
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Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Then some real talk all round.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Gendry is a plonker
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Fuuuuuck
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
I've never disliked an episode more.
Plumdaff
joy in people
I'm not really sure what to make of it tbh. Some of the setting up for the next battle seems to involve ridiculous character motivation going against eight seasons of development. For example, if Jaime has decided he has to atone by being the one to kill Cersei show that, not this weird about facery.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
... and that was one of the more sensible elements. I think that episode may have contained five or six of the worst five scenes ever to appear on the show, with that Bronn scene being the absolute worst.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Tyrion’s puppy eyes melted Cersei’s cold heart.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
Why didn't she fire the massive crossbow at Tyrion?
Mogden
I like tea
Meh. Just made me find a hatred for Daenarys I'd not had before. Not impressed by that one. Is what we all feared going to be the case in that they can't top last week's episode? The only bit I did like was Arya saying no. Damn right girl. Sod being tied to a partner for the rest of your days, go out and see the world 
ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
Yet another instance of epic fantasy series being clunky as hell to tie up. Where as a few seasons ago heroes acting dumb like Cat releasing Jaime, Robb nobbing the wrong person and Ned warning Cersei was seen as building a great story now its feels like its just driving the story to its end.
Cersei pulling a Ramsey Snow to draw someone into a battle on emotions rather than waiting, I thought was very true to the show. But I can see some really did not like it. Nice to see Varys actually back on form too.
I wonder if any betting shop is taking odds on Arya doing in Daenereys. I can really seeing that being a GRRM way to end the show.
Cersei pulling a Ramsey Snow to draw someone into a battle on emotions rather than waiting, I thought was very true to the show. But I can see some really did not like it. Nice to see Varys actually back on form too.
I wonder if any betting shop is taking odds on Arya doing in Daenereys. I can really seeing that being a GRRM way to end the show.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
They were all acting dumb with good reason though - in the last episode Dany was outside Cersei's walls with about thirty blokes and everyone Cersei apparently wants dead and yet there Cersei was, smirking on the battlements trying to provoke a battle when she could just order her thousands of troops out of the gate and finish it all in about a minute. I mean she literally paid Bronn a big bag of gold to kill Tyrion, has been actively wanting him dead for six seasons and yet there he is, within the range of about a hundred bowmen, a dozen of the most accurate ballistae in the genre, Jaime isn't present and she is already in the killing mood - so of course she is just going to smirk at him.
There was no reason to it whatsoever.
imposs1904
Thread Killa'
Not a good episode. I fear the book wankers may be right.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
This episode, after the post-match party/wake, seemed like a series of people making illogical decisions, obvious mistakes, and behaving in some cases quite out of character. For example, Bronn had some great lines, and they were well-delivered, but it didn't seem believable. Brienne's reaction to Jaime's pump-and-dump wasn't believable - she'd have been upset, sure, but in a "WHAT a surprise" kind of way, not a gibbering without-a-bloke-I'm-a-mess sort of way.
Worst of all was the flinging aside of the most basic "show, don't tell" rule of story writing when it came to Danaerys. The show has consistently forwarded the theme that power and its pursuit is IN ITSELF what drives people to do terrible things. Dany has had despotic traits - she takes credit for things going well as though she alone has achieved them but problems are the fault of those around her - but suddenly it's now simple revenge because her bezzer and another of her pets were offed (and for no other reason than as plot devices. Missandei ever have a plot, particularly? Oberyn was in it for ten minutes and got loads of stuff to say and do).
It IS a brilliant show, and maybe it IS simply the fact that they could never top last week's for sheer intensity, but I've never disliked an episode more than this one. The show has entered the finishing straight at pace but has suddenly fallen over trying to go too far, too fast. I hope it recovers for the final two episodes, because it would be a dreadful shame if they blew it right at the end.
(P.S. Ghost not getting fussed - callous. Just callous.)
Worst of all was the flinging aside of the most basic "show, don't tell" rule of story writing when it came to Danaerys. The show has consistently forwarded the theme that power and its pursuit is IN ITSELF what drives people to do terrible things. Dany has had despotic traits - she takes credit for things going well as though she alone has achieved them but problems are the fault of those around her - but suddenly it's now simple revenge because her bezzer and another of her pets were offed (and for no other reason than as plot devices. Missandei ever have a plot, particularly? Oberyn was in it for ten minutes and got loads of stuff to say and do).
It IS a brilliant show, and maybe it IS simply the fact that they could never top last week's for sheer intensity, but I've never disliked an episode more than this one. The show has entered the finishing straight at pace but has suddenly fallen over trying to go too far, too fast. I hope it recovers for the final two episodes, because it would be a dreadful shame if they blew it right at the end.
(P.S. Ghost not getting fussed - callous. Just callous.)
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
To be fair to them, the books are the cause of the problem. There are simply too many loose ends lying about, though they've made what is probably the wrong decision to try and tie off as many as they can. They really should have ignored some of the smaller threads and made the main story flow a bit better.
If it were easy, the Fat Man wouldn't be taking until the end of time to get another book out.
The first 15 minutes was ridiculous. Jaime and Brienne - wtf?!?! Gendry getting made lord of whatever - is that gonna be the end of his storyline? He's gotta be the odds on favourite to sit on the iron throne now, surely?
Dany going all power crazed is simply happening too quickly. I know the signs have been there from a while back, but it's suddenly feeling a bit rushed. I suppose her arc is that she turns into the mad king.
Big stupid CGI battle next week, as well. Which means not that much time to tell story. I'm only really interested in what Arya gets up to, Cleganebowl, and who will kick Dany off the iron throne when she beats Cersei by killing loads of innocents with dragonfire.
Bran and Sansa don't seem to have much left to do.
Dany going all power crazed is simply happening too quickly. I know the signs have been there from a while back, but it's suddenly feeling a bit rushed. I suppose her arc is that she turns into the mad king.
Big stupid CGI battle next week, as well. Which means not that much time to tell story. I'm only really interested in what Arya gets up to, Cleganebowl, and who will kick Dany off the iron throne when she beats Cersei by killing loads of innocents with dragonfire.
Bran and Sansa don't seem to have much left to do.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
I disagree - its the editing out / outright butchery of the book's plotlines that have led to most of season seven and eight's problems.
Take Dorne for example (even the truncated show version) - we could have had what happens in the books, where Doran is patiently biding his time until he gets to have his revenge on the Lannisters, and in many ways him playing a role in taking Kings Landing in order to depose a Lannister Queen and help finally kill the Mountain would have a wonderful symmetry to it. Instead we had him and Trystane killed for reasons that even now make no sense, followed by Sand Snakes death porn, and now the nameless new ruler of Dorne is going to help them out.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Interesting you took it that way. I was almost certainly projecting, but I took it more as "I wasn't able to save him from himself" sort of thing. She saw the good in him, very often that neither he nor anyone else saw, and has been instrumental in bringing that side of him out, only for him to turn his back on that (possibly
), or at least not believe he's capable/worthy of true redemption.Sort of like other characters, though at the moment the most obvious being Danerys - the likes of Tyrion and Varys saw in her the good person she could be, but now that's all up the swanny as she gets both closer to and further away from power.
As I say though, that may be more me projecting rather than what's in the text, which I'll freely admit I'm not always the best at following
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Also, without having read the books but heard some stuff from those that have, I feel like Euron has been really underserved by the show. You can imagine in another telling that he and Cersei are a terrifying alliance, but as it is he's just a randy oaf with a load of boats.
