Galloway returns to Parliament in sensational win in Bradford West - Labour/Coalition smashed

[Idris2002]

It seems ti imply that the labour party put forward a muslim who drank.

There are lots of Muslims who drink - even in Bradford, I'd wager.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

No one has actually confirmed that that leaflet is true yet. It might very well be, but, other than the notorious racist poster who posted it here, its only appeared on one Labour party blog, so could well be completely fabricated (and distributed in a 'white' ward to get exactly the effect it has here!)

I agree that we have no evidence it is true - but would Labour put forward a letter alledging their own candidate engaged in haram practises?

 

[DexterTCN]

...Or is he seen as almost exclusively a protector/champion for the Muslim community and the values of its self apointed leaders?

You know the muslim elders said to vote labour and the voters ignored them, yeah?

 

[Idris2002]

I still think the British Workers Party was a goer.

Careful now, you might find yourself in a sticky situation. . .

 

[belboid]

Far from it, if you remember Tatchells selection over the old Labour guy ( I think he stood as Real labour or something) was headline news. Tatchell had a far higher profile than this Labour candidate in Bradford.

uhh, i think we're talking at cross purposes here...

The old Labour guy was a homophobic bigot, standing as a homophobic bigot. Tatchell did have a far higher profile than whoever last nights candidate was, but he was profiled as the poofter candidate, rather than a Labour candidate.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Careful now, you might find yourself in a sticky situation. . .

or the British and Irish Workers Association.. which later became the Meanwhile Historical Society.

 

[butchersapron]

Look what they're up against, though. A labour party that started two wars and increased inequality when in office, and that is now a joke in opposition, still toeing the line that millionaires create wealth, etc, etc.

That is coasting in the polls right now, 4 consecutive 10 point leads. What might help 'respect' would be low turnout.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

The key issues in my view are

Is Galloway a recognisable outspoken apolitical protest vote against the entire political class, that is accepted, just like the BNP or UKIP, or a leftwing protest vote?

Or is he seen as almost exclusively a protector/champion for the Muslim community and the values of its self apointed leaders?

You can be certain that if the former is happening at all, the political class will want to spin it as the latter for all they're worth.

 

[butchersapron]

You know the muslim elders said to vote labour and the voters ignored them, yeah?

This had been alleged by sky - does anyone here know for sure?

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

I would imagine the Labour candidate would have a strong group of community leaders behind him, but there are probably enough in Bradford West for Galloway to get more than a few as well.

 

[magneze]

BBC reported the same.

Today programme interview with Salma Yaqoob was bizarre. Ended with the interviewer grilling her about whether British troops should be attacked in Afghanistan.

 

[DexterTCN]

I don't know 'for sure' of course, I've picked it up from one of the news sites this morning but checking my history is pointless, I've been to dozens and dozens.

He has an interview on sky news at one pm.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Bet on it.

Poor bet. A couple of hundred, maybe a thousand, but there's no way you could mobilise 10% of the population of a constituency (Galloway's majority is 10,000 and change, the population of the constituency is just over 97,000) on postal votes alone. You may loathe Galloway (I do), but attributing his victory to a degree of ballot-rigging that's actually impossible to organise is just sour grapes.

 

[Balbi]

He'll get full pages in most Sundays this week. Like a cat in a shaft of sunlight

 

[littlebabyjesus]

You know the muslim elders said to vote labour and the voters ignored them, yeah?

Which ones? The 'Muslim Council of Great Britain' is often trotted out by the BBC and others as some kind of official spokesgroup for Islam in the UK. It is no such thing, though. Islam is not Catholicism.

 

[butchersapron]

I don't know 'for sure' of course, I've picked it up from one of the news sites this morning but checking my history is pointless, I've been to dozens and dozens.

He has an interview on sky news at one pm.

I've heard it too, but I also heard that the first respect victories were won in the teeth of the elders which turned out to be wrong. Just after classification.

 

[butchersapron]

Which ones? The 'Muslim Council of Great Britain' is often trotted out by the BBC and others as some kind of official spokesgroup for Islam in the UK. It is no such thing, though. Islam is not Catholicism.

In the mosques, the imams.

 

[Wilf]

Saddam must be absolutely still in his grave.

 

[belboid]

I've heard it too, but I also heard that the first respect victories were won in the teeth of the elders which turned out to be wrong. Just after classification.

ties in with the Guardian article from a couple of days ago, especially around 'Bradree'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/...bradford-west-byelection?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487

 

[butchersapron]

ties in with the Guardian article from a couple of days ago, especially around 'Bradree'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/...bradford-west-byelection?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487

Ta. Interesting that this time he seems more to be the benificiary of splits in the Muslim community (class splits even)....

 

[DexterTCN]

Yes...many of the reports suggest an increase in young muslim women voting, primarily for gg.

 

[The39thStep]

I still think the British Workers Party was a goer.

years ahead of its time, as was the slate to run in the EU elections.

I think some of the ex Marxists for Griffin lot are still around as well.

 

[The39thStep]

BBC reported the same.

Today programme interview with Salma Yaqoob was bizarre. Ended with the interviewer grilling her about whether British troops should be attacked in Afghanistan.

Nicky Campbell asked more about same sex marriages than anything else

 

[articul8]

Harriet Harman is using her time in Yorkshire to learn the lessons of Bradford by....going to the ballet

 

[coley]

Really? The UK has made no aggressive noises against Iran?

Sure, Galloway's support for Baathists is more than questionable, but I'm not surprised he's getting votes on his anti-war stance. It's a genuine stance, after all.

I think the words galloway and genuine are a good example of an oxymoron

 

[Santino]

Harriet Harman is using her time in Yorkshire to learn the lessons of Bradford by....going to the ballet

Would you rather she went and bought another sausage roll? Or perhaps went to a cloth cap and whippet fair?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I think the words galloway and genuine are a good example of an oxymoron

You don't think he's genuine in his opposition to British military action of recent years? I do.

 

[articul8]

a) yes and b) I'd rather that they actually listened to what voters in places like Bradford were saying and why they rejected Labour so decisively

 

[littlebabyjesus]

a) yes and b) I'd rather that they actually listened to what voters in places like Bradford were saying and why they rejected Labour so decisively

She's going to be at the ballet all day and night, then? Or is it just an evening's relaxation after a day's work?

Sorry, I hate this kind of rubbish. If she likes ballet, she should go to the ballet.

Also, you really don't think she already knows full well why labour were rejected?

 

[Citizen66]

I think the words galloway and genuine are a good example of an oxymoron

Same as you, but without the oxy.