Flash Forward

[Awesome Wells]

Something tells me Benford will be the father of ickle baby Janis Exposition.

Better episode than last week.

All they have to do with Nazi guy is repatriate him somewhere he'll get fucked up. Give him no social security and let him starve. Who cares about some old nazi.

Still too many irritating characters and pointless scenes. I couldn't give a shit about Dimitri. Let him get murdered for all i care. Aaron can fuck off as well. No one who wears a beard like that deserves to live.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

That's the problem. The plot holes and stupid ways people react are just making it painful. It's hard for me to suspend my disbelief and just enjoy the scifi romp.

Today when they are investigating the crows that woman was all like "It doesn't mean anything" "just give up" "this means nothing". She hadn't even heard him out FFS. Even I could see that he was going somewhere with the crow thing, she must be the worst detective ever.

 

[beeboo]

Good to see that neither impending Somalian civil war nor global catastrophic blackouts could prove a barrier to the collection of detailed data on the crow population

the plot in that episode really was weak. Sticking with it for now but it wants to sort itself out

attempting to suspend disbelief and play the game now: waht are we supposed to read into Mr beardy finding out his daughter really is dead despite what he saw in his FF? And that mrs dimitri-to-be had a FF which apparantly doesn't tie in with him being dead? Did some people just see what they wanted to believe, or what?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Why would the customs officer and Nazi have the same vision. The customs officer probably dealt with hundreds of people that day so it's fair to say he may have had a vision of any one of those hundreds of people that day so if his vision hadn't been of the Nazi who he may have seen that day, would they have discounted his vision?

 

[London_Calling]

attempting to suspend disbelief and play the game now: waht are we supposed to read into Mr beardy finding out his daughter really is dead despite what he saw in his FF?

I suspect 37lbs (or whatever was mentioned as being left of his daughter) probably corresponds to the combined weight of her legs - they being in sun-kissd LA while the rest of her lays feverishly in a cave in Afghanistan.

And that mrs dimitri-to-be had a FF which apparantly doesn't tie in with him being dead? Did some people just see what they wanted to believe, or what?

Distance shot, everyone dressed as the Bee Gee's circa 1977, could have been anyone further up the beach. He was just going along with her vision.

It's a nonsense; Nazi's, aliens, children used as cheap emotional shots - still totally a Spielberg/Multiplex gig.

 

[ivebeenhigh]

Why would the customs officer and Nazi have the same vision. The customs officer probably dealt with hundreds of people that day so it's fair to say he may have had a vision of any one of those hundreds of people that day so if his vision hadn't been of the Nazi who he may have seen that day, would they have discounted his vision?

er they all see the exact same moment .

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

er they all see the exact same moment .

so how come female lawyer saw Korean guy she was marrying on the beach (or did she just assume that as it was quite a distance)?

 

[Iguana]

Today when they are investigating the crows that woman was all like "It doesn't mean anything" "just give up" "this means nothing". She hadn't even heard him out FFS. Even I could see that he was going somewhere with the crow thing, she must be the worst detective ever.

Well she is a lesbian, everyone knows lesbians are angry and contrary.

I figured birds had something to with the plot very early on in the pilot when the bird crashes into the London office building in River Song's vision. Either I'm phenomenally smart or this show is laying it on thick, or both. I think both.

 

[ivebeenhigh]

so how come female lawyer saw Korean guy she was marrying on the beach (or did she just assume that as it was quite a distance)?

exactly.
that and he didnt have a vision
and that he got told he was going to be shot before then.

 

[ivebeenhigh]

surely the collective noun for crows is a murder?

 

[Epico]

Was it me or was the link between the Nazi and Banford incredibly tenious, he briefly mentions him once in his FF, but yet the Nazi knows that he's an FBI agent...yada yada yada...

 

[ivebeenhigh]

Was it me or was the link between the Nazi and Banford incredibly tenious, he briefly mentions him once in his FF, but yet the Nazi knows that he's an FBI agent...yada yada yada...

he did say agent banford in his FF

 

[Iguana]

Was it me or was the link between the Nazi and Banford incredibly tenious, he briefly mentions him once in his FF, but yet the Nazi knows that he's an FBI agent...yada yada yada...

He was thinking about him at that moment. People didn't watch their flashes, they experienced them. They know what they were thinking and feeling as well as doing.

 

[London_Calling]

Fwiw, I think there's an interesting idea in there somewhere - about fate, destiny and how religion influences how we face the future, that kind of area - but it's so submerged atm. It is interesting that people would work toward something even though they know it ends badly for them, but then plenty of people fail to take control of their lives, etc, etc, etc, etc. There's a t least a discussion to be had. Not going to happen with nazi's and aliens hanging around arbitrarily though.

 

[Kanda]

surely the collective noun for crows is a murder?

It is! Was on the quiz machine in the pub tonight

 

[Kanda]

E3 was shite. E4 has to pick up or I am done.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

exactly.
that and he didnt have a vision
and that he got told he was going to be shot before then.

see

 

[London_Calling]

Maybe it was his funeral, scatter the ashes at sea, that sort of thing.

 

[beeboo]

He was thinking about him at that moment. People didn't watch their flashes, they experienced them. They know what they were thinking and feeling as well as doing.

This makes sense, but if this were the case, surely Mrs Dimitri would know whether or not she was walking down the beach to get married or not? ie the fact she believes it must mean either it's a genuine FF of her about to marry him, or its some kind of dream/fantasy?

 

[ivebeenhigh]

see

she assumed she saw him.
he thinks he will be dead by then, and is going along with her view
which he is aware assuming that the visions are true that she will be marrying someone else just after he had died.
which is why he is a bit mopey

 

[Iguana]

This makes sense, but if this were the case, surely Mrs Dimitri would know whether or not she was walking down the beach to get married or not? ie the fact she believes it must mean either it's a genuine FF of her about to marry him, or its some kind of dream/fantasy?

Maybe she was, maybe he was just asleep in his FF and the call he received from the person who wouldn't tell him who she was after he posted on the internet about seeing nothing was a hoax.

 

[ivebeenhigh]

or maybe he was in a coma from being shot

 

[Epico]

I think we're giving this all more thought than it deserves!

 

[beeboo]

I think we're giving this all more thought than it deserves!

I think collectively we've probably given it more thought than the scriptwriters have.

 

[beeboo]

Although for what it is worth I'm running with a theory of the possiblity of alternate futures - so Dimitri and Mrs D-to-be have experienced different possibilities of what their future might be, depending on whether he dies or not.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

she assumed she saw him.
he thinks he will be dead by then, and is going along with her view
which he is aware assuming that the visions are true that she will be marrying someone else just after he had died.
which is why he is a bit mopey

Well I'd be a bit pissed off if she went marrying someone so soon after I died

 

[BlackArab]

I did like the bong joke

 

[Pie 1]

The plot holes and stupid ways people react are just making it painful. It's hard for me to suspend my disbelief and just enjoy the scifi romp.

This.



& all that funeral scene crap with Jeff fucking Buckley playing over it - Puurleassse

 

[London_Calling]

I thouhgt it was quite efficient to complete the paperwork on an exhumation, have the body recovered, have the DNA tested and have a drink with your wife - all while your mate in interviewing a Nazi

 

[Awesome Wells]

That's the problem. The plot holes and stupid ways people react are just making it painful. It's hard for me to suspend my disbelief and just enjoy the scifi romp.

Today when they are investigating the crows that woman was all like "It doesn't mean anything" "just give up" "this means nothing". She hadn't even heard him out FFS. Even I could see that he was going somewhere with the crow thing, she must be the worst detective ever.

she's plot exposition woman, and of course, to the viewer, the crows do mean something (despite painful use of the phrase ' murder of crows'). So she just seems even more stupid.