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Fat White Family & various offshoot bands (Moonlandingz, Insecure Men, Warmduscher, Pregoblin etc)

That racism can be excused on the grounds that you enjoy their music?
Here's gabi describing his love for Eric Clapton.
One of the great guitarists of his generation. Or any generation. A genuine bluesman, probably the best white guy to ply his trade in that genre.
And here's Clapton's own words:
Do we have any foreigners in the audience tonight? If so, please put up your hands.

Wogs I mean, I'm looking at you. Where are you? I'm sorry but some fucking wog...Arab grabbed my wife's bum, you know? Surely got to be said, yeah this is what all the fucking foreigners and wogs over here are like, just disgusting, that's just the truth, yeah. So where are you? Well wherever you all are, I think you should all just leave.

Not just leave the hall, leave our country. You fucking (indecipherable). I don't want you here, in the room or in my country. Listen to me, man! I think we should vote for Enoch Powell. Enoch's our man. I think Enoch's right, I think we should send them all back.

Stop Britain from becoming a black colony. Get the foreigners out. Get the wogs out. Get the coons out. Keep Britain white. I used to be into dope, now I'm into racism. It's much heavier, man. Fucking wogs, man. Fucking Saudis taking over London. Bastard wogs.

Britain is becoming overcrowded and Enoch will stop it and send them all back. The black wogs and coons and Arabs and fucking Jamaicans and fucking [indecipherable] don't belong here, we don't want them here.

This is England, this is a white country, we don't want any black wogs and coons living here. We need to make clear to them they are not welcome. England is for white people, man. We are a white country. I don't want fucking wogs living next to me with their standards.

This is Great Britain, a white country, what is happening to us, for fuck's sake? We need to vote for Enoch Powell, he's a great man, speaking truth. Vote for Enoch, he's our man, he's on our side, he'll look after us. I want all of you here to vote for Enoch, support him, he's on our side. Enoch for Prime Minister! Throw the wogs out! Keep Britain white! [source]
More: http://rockaliser.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12/eric-claptons-evil-speech.html
 
What are you on about you fucking idiot?

Are you accusing me of being a racist?

you support and promote a band on your website who claim that 'niggers can't read'. Take a hard fucking look at yourself.

I'm not a racist, and i'm definitely not a liar. I hope once you've sobered up you delete that shit.
 
Ha, oh jesus wept.

Way to even miss that simple and plainly spelt out point Gabi.
This is perhaps an indication of who is being dealt with here.
 
So Clapton is/was a racist cunt. Good to know. What about the bloke in the band the thread's about? Still seems highly likely.
 
gabi has been proven to be a liar and a hypocrite and acknowledged as such by both sides of this thread (as well as being totally fucked in the head) so it is probably best if everyone ignores him. Tho it is trickier admittedly if you're the one being slandered
 
Well, at least history has proven that being a drunken and blatant racist doesn't have to end your musical career or even hinder it at all.

Fat White Winners all the way...
 
Well, at least history has proven that being a drunken and blatant racist doesn't have to end your musical career or even hinder it at all.

Fat White Winners all the way...

I my problem with this all along has been the 'blatant racist' bit.
There is far too much hearsay and conjecture to say with enough certainty to convict.

As I have said all along . . This does not mean that the guy in question
1. Was not a dick.
2. Is not a dick.
3. Isn't a closet racist and let it slip out.

The line that is constantly repeated on this thread was.
1. Not heard by anyone on this thread.
2. Was not even heard clearly at source by anyone at all.
3. Was supposedly part of an incoherent babble anyway.
4. Not placed in any context whatsoever.

There is a lot of shouting about 'racist apologists', which I find quite shameful as it makes any defense impossible. Yes, maybe he is a racist, but maybe he isn't, and we don't have enough information to go on. It's not time for a lynching just yet.

I was once put in detention for calling my best friend a 'chinky chinaman'. Did I say Kam is a pikey chinky chinaman? Well yes I did. So am I forever a racist and should I have done that detention? The full sentence was 'Dell is being a twat, he won't join in because he says Kam is a pikey chinky chinaman.' . . . but the teacher didn't hear that, and neither did anyone else as a ran towards them.

I have no idea what this fat white guy said but shouldn't he at least have the benefit of the extreme doubt? We have character references from both sides, and it's all waaaaay
to up in the air for me to call, but that's kind of my point.
 
I my problem with this all along has been the 'blatant racist' bit.
There is far too much hearsay and conjecture to say with enough certainty to convict.

As I have said all along . . This does not mean that the guy in question
1. Was not a dick.
2. Is not a dick.
3. Isn't a closet racist and let it slip out.

The line that is constantly repeated on this thread was.
1. Not heard by anyone on this thread.
2. Was not even heard clearly at source by anyone at all.
3. Was supposedly part of an incoherent babble anyway.
4. Not placed in any context whatsoever.

There is a lot of shouting about 'racist apologists', which I find quite shameful as it makes any defense impossible. Yes, maybe he is a racist, but maybe he isn't, and we don't have enough information to go on. It's not time for a lynching just yet.

I was once put in detention for calling my best friend a 'chinky chinaman'. Did I say Kam is a pikey chinky chinaman? Well yes I did. So am I forever a racist and should I have done that detention? The full sentence was 'Dell is being a twat, he won't join in because he says Kam is a pikey chinky chinaman.' . . . but the teacher didn't hear that, and neither did anyone else as a ran towards them.

I have no idea what this fat white guy said but shouldn't he at least have the benefit of the extreme doubt? We have character references from both sides, and it's all waaaaay
to up in the air for me to call, but that's kind of my point.

I was referring to Eric Clapton. I haven't called anyone else a blatant racist. I haven't used the term 'racist apologists' either.

As for the fat white guy....he has the benefit of the doubt as far as I'm concerned. I'd just like to see him take the best advantage of that and stop hiding behind his manager and his pals and speak up for himself.
 
I was referring to Eric Clapton. I haven't called anyone else a blatant racist. I haven't used the term 'racist apologists' either.

As for the fat white guy....he has the benefit of the doubt as far as I'm concerned. I'd just like to see him take the best advantage of that and stop hiding behind his manager and his pals and speak up for himself.

Oh right. My apologies. I assumed you were talking about the Fat White chap when you said 'blatant racist'.
I know you didn't use the term racist apologist, I was replying in general about the thread. I should perhaps not have made all those comments tagged to your profile.
(well it turns out I shouldn't have tagged you at all).

I don't think the fat white chap cares about what some idiots are saying on an internet forum about him. I most certainly would not bother logging in to argue with the people on here, and I think he is right to keep a 'Paul McCartney' distance away.
 
Oh right. My apologies. I assumed you were talking about the Fat White chap when you said 'blatant racist'.
I know you didn't use the term racist apologist, I was replying in general about the thread. I should perhaps not have made all those comments tagged to your profile.
(well it turns out I shouldn't have tagged you at all).

I don't think the fat white chap cares about what some idiots are saying on an internet forum about him. I most certainly would not bother logging in to argue with the people on here, and I think he is right to keep a 'Paul McCartney' distance away.
Who are the people who did say 'racist apologist'? Are they the same as the 'idiots'? I appreciate that you put your best shirt on and all but come on.
 
28 pages. No denial from his acquaintances or manager. The rest is just noise. Probably said it. Probably a racist twat or someone who thinks pretending to be is going to get attention. Why would anyone want to see the band? Fuck that.
 
His acquaintances and manager are actively covering for the bloke,that's what all the noise is designed to do...keep muddying up the waters,lose the real subject matter in amongst the 28 pages...Every time we get too near the knuckle up pops atomic suplex with a poe face or rutabowa with his faux outrage/name callin to quickly move us on to the next page,and it's all organised behind the threads back by pm...disingenuous shameful stuff.
When none of that works due to the tenacity of the "idiots" on this thread (atomics' word above) we get slagged for using pseudonyms and told to shut the fuck up...
This whole thread is a testament to the attitude/behaviour of these individuals and some others,and i really hope people take the time to read the whole thing...because they don't want ye to,because it's been slowly dawning on 'em that they've created an almighty fuck up.When all they wanted was free, positive, unchallenged advertising.
Deluded arrogant people protectin/promotin deluded arrogant people shocker
 
Take a step to clear it up. Ask your mate, the person involved.
ok, asked as promised. via the medium of facebook message. you wanted me to ask specifically about what happened and what words were said at the grosvenor right? also cd you clarify, when did anyone first ask me personally to ask him? it was only in the last week or so wasn't it, or do i have that wrong?
 
For full transparency, i have sent 2 people pms about this; red squirrel, in which i was getting clarification on a couple of things (feel free to ask him if he thought i was trying to "organise" him), and someone on this board who works at the grosvenor, to try and get a first hand report (they were unwilling to comment on this thread as they weren't there on the night; probably wise). So could you take that back thanks.
 
I've said all it is possible for me to say about an incident which I didn't witness (and nobody on this thread witnessed); which is very little. All I have done is provide extra information (eg mine and others personal knowledge of people in the band; and the fact that they are now actually hosting a night at the place where whatever it is happened). Then with the given information people can use their brains to draw their own conclusions.

What else are you asking me to do, exactly? I asked you that question by pm and you didn't reply. In fact I tried to engage with several people who expressed concern on this thread, with no reply, so I came to the conclusion people didn't actually care but were just on a wind up (as I got truxta and bamalama to explicitly admit, hence my no longer engaging with them.)
 
wtf? where are you getting this from? total lie. there is no "organisation" by pm or any other way. you've gone full gabi with the rest of that post too.
It's already been explained to ye that trying to use gabi as a brush to tar everyone else isn't on...you agreed.When are you expecting an answer from your pal?
 
ok, asked as promised. via the medium of facebook message. you wanted me to ask specifically about what happened and what words were said at the grosvenor right? also cd you clarify, when did anyone first ask me personally to ask him? it was only in the last week or so wasn't it, or do i have that wrong?
I wanted you to ask him if it happened as you speculated or not. And if not, what did happen. And more to get you to actually take this seriously rather than of any hope of an answer - after all, if as you hope, this is all some daft mix-up (which i'd be very happy to hear) then taking one small step towards clearing it up has to be helpful right? I think i asked you to inquire the day before yesterday.
 
It's already been explained to ye that trying to use gabi as a brush to tar everyone else isn't on...you agreed
Could you take back this bolded outright lie about me: "Every time we get too near the knuckle up pops atomic suplex with a poe face or rutabowa with his faux outrage/name callin to quickly move us on to the next page,and it's all organised behind the threads back by pm..."
then i'll take back using the adjective "gabi" about your post.
 
I wanted you to ask him if it happened as you speculated or not. And if not, what did happen. And more to get you to actually take this seriously rather than of any hope of an answer - after all, if as you hope, this is all some daft mix-up (which i'd be very happy to hear) then taking one small step towards clearing it up has to be helpful right? I think i asked you to inquire the day before yesterday.
Fine. just wanted to check that people hadn't been asking me to do it for ages. i didn't mention my speculation, didn't want to put words in anyone's mouth.
 
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Could you take back this bolded accusation. "Every time we get too near the knuckle up pops atomic suplex with a poe face or rutabowa with his faux outrage/name callin to quickly move us on to the next page,and it's all organised behind the threads back by pm..."
then i'll take back using the adjective "gabi" about your post.
Lets not swamp the thread in a flurry of unnecessary apologetic reach arounds eh
 
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