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Fat White Family & various offshoot bands (Moonlandingz, Insecure Men, Warmduscher, Pregoblin etc)

Someone had to go and mention Muse...

but....but....but....look how much he means it!

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Christ, is this bun fight still lurching on?

ATOMIC SUPLEX said:
...sounded like a jellyfish slapping a salmon
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I know this comment wasn't about FWF, but if only they had the imagination to sound like a jellyfish slapping a salmon, perhaps they wouldn't make such dreary and derivative "music" as they now do.

Having heard their session with Mark Riley on 6Music in the week, I'm actually confused as to why anyone can find them in the slightest bit "edgy". Tedious wannabe indie bollocks.
 
TruXta said:
I don't think you know what stalking means, boy.
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I am going to assume you weird behaviour is down to some off-board personal issue. Feel free to take it out on me now, but I think when you look back on your posts in the cold light of day you will be embarassed by them.
 
rutabowa said:
I am going to assume you weird behaviour is down to some off-board personal issue. Feel free to take it out on me now, but I think when you look back on your posts in the cold light of day you will be embarassed by them.
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Nah. Bit bored of you now tho, fanboi.
 
The cognitive dissonance and attempts to change the narrative of this thread by the use of repetitive language("if i say it often enough it's true/people will believe it")by the public school head boys("it's an embarrassment,you've let us down etc")here is staggering,and it's great fuckin craic...keep it up boys,the band'll love youse for it.
Fan boys eh? :rolleyes:
 
andysays said:
Christ, is this bun fight still lurching on?



I know this comment wasn't about FWF, but if only they had the imagination to sound like a jellyfish slapping a salmon, perhaps they wouldn't make such dreary and derivative "music" as they now do.

Having heard their session with Mark Riley on 6Music in the week, I'm actually confused as to why anyone can find them in the slightest bit "edgy". Tedious wannabe indie bollocks.
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Well all music is derivative to some extent these days. As soon as you get old enough to have explored rock and roll with any degree of involved interest, you'll hear classic game-changing pioneering songs or bands present in any new band. One of the standard ways to talk about a new band is to say "They're like..."

I'm more interested in the combination of references and influences, and how a new band has in any way reinvented something I'm already familiar with. I'm interested to see if a band has discovered rock and roll for themselves, invented it like it never existed before, for their own pleasure and delight, and with a sense of needing to show me, share it with me, force me to pay attention to it. Atomic Suplex is a band like that. Their music is completely familiar, but also delivered and presented like it's the first time these chords have ben put together in quite this way, with this intention, with this kind of urgency.

The Fat White Family have elements of a lot of different bands and genres, including The Fall, Zappa, california surf music, The Gun Club, Sex Pistols, Mediterranean folk and a whole bunch of other stuff.

Maybe we have very different ways of listening to and hearing music, because to my ear they are far from dreary. I wanna know what happens next, where they're gonna go with this, cos even though I know the songs by now, whenever I see them I am still kinda alarmed by what they are doing. That weird counterpoint of chippy-falsetto and grinding-rock vocals of Saul and Lias, the Hank Wangford/Joe Meek rock and roll guitar, all within a standard rockanroll setup, except that somehow it's not. There's a kind of weary cynical delivery, that is also sinister and dangerous and fucked up. They look like swamp monsters hauled up out of their sick beds and forced to play out their internal demons.

I've heard a lot of people say "They're the real deal", and I think that too. I'd not describe them as "edgy" though. Has anyone said that? Given that rockanroll should by definition be out there on the fringes of what is known, accepted, acceptable, understood, then okay, any good rockanroll band is supposed to be edgy. But within that context, FWF is not any more edgy than any other good rockanroll band.

They're young dumb and full of cum, they're broke and they're hungry for their lives to start. They have the arrogance that comes with youth, and the sense of burgeoning power that comes from being creative and having that recognised by others. Lias is clever and thoughtful and interesting. He has charisma and character and balls and brain and heart. He's a great frontman, a constant target for the eye. The rest of the band are cuddled up around him in a churning ball of supportive interactive dark yanking clashing harmonies and chords. And Saul's solos make me feel like something important and necessary is being pulled out of my gut in a long thin line.

I saw them play Hastings on Halloween, and they were terrific. Even when they're shambolic and tired and half of them are lying on the floor to play, they're good. I heard the Marc Riley session, and I was excited to hear that noise coming out of the radio.

I like this band, and I can't wait to see how they are at the 100 club after they've been on the road for a few days.
 
story said:
Well all music is derivative to some extent these days. As soon as you get old enough to have explored rock and roll with any degree of involved interest, you'll hear classic game-changing pioneering songs or bands present in any new band. One of the standard ways to talk about a new band is to say "They're like..."

I'm more interested in the combination of references and influences, and how a new band has in any way reinvented something I'm already familiar with. I'm interested to see if a band has discovered rock and roll for themselves, invented it like it never existed before, for their own pleasure and delight, and with a sense of needing to show me, share it with me, force me to pay attention to it. Atomic Suplex is a band like that. Their music is completely familiar, but also delivered and presented like it's the first time these chords have ben put together in quite this way, with this intention, with this kind of urgency.

The Fat White Family have elements of a lot of different bands and genres, including The Fall, Zappa, california surf music, The Gun Club, Sex Pistols, Mediterranean folk and a whole bunch of other stuff.

Maybe we have very different ways of listening to and hearing music, because to my ear they are far from dreary. I wanna know what happens next, where they're gonna go with this, cos even though I know the songs by now, whenever I see them I am still kinda alarmed by what they are doing. That weird counterpoint of chippy-falsetto and grinding-rock vocals of Saul and Lias, the Hank Wangford/Joe Meek rock and roll guitar, all within a standard rockanroll setup, except that somehow it's not. There's a kind of weary cynical delivery, that is also sinister and dangerous and fucked up. They look like swamp monsters hauled up out of their sick beds and forced to play out their internal demons.

I've heard a lot of people say "They're the real deal", and I think that too. I'd not describe them as "edgy" though. Has anyone said that? Given that rockanroll should by definition be out there on the fringes of what is known, accepted, acceptable, understood, then okay, any good rockanroll band is supposed to be edgy. But within that context, FWF is not any more edgy than any other good rockanroll band.

They're young dumb and full of cum, they're broke and they're hungry for their lives to start. They have the arrogance that comes with youth, and the sense of burgeoning power that comes from being creative and having that recognised by others. Lias is clever and thoughtful and interesting. He has charisma and character and balls and brain and heart. He's a great frontman, a constant target for the eye. The rest of the band are cuddled up around him in a churning ball of supportive interactive dark yanking clashing harmonies and chords. And Saul's solos make me feel like something important and necessary is being pulled out of my gut in a long thin line.

I saw them play Hastings on Halloween, and they were terrific. Even when they're shambolic and tired and half of them are lying on the floor to play, they're good. I heard the Marc Riley session, and I was excited to hear that noise coming out of the radio.

I like this band, and I can't wait to see how they are at the 100 club after they've been on the road for a few days.
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Good post (obviously ha). Imo anyone who bangs on about a band being "derivative" shows a fundamental misunderstanding of rock and roll, and so their opinion should not be trusted.
 
TruXta said:
:D Someone woke up on the serious side of the bed today.
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. . . and someone woke up, looked upon his posts in the cold light of day, and somehow still continued being a total penis.

Your posts have been rude on a personal level. They are there to make pointless and infantile taunts, (on a thread, which subject you yourself profess to not care a jot about).
 
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ATOMIC SUPLEX said:
. . . and someone woke up, looked upon his posts in the cold light of day, and somehow still continued being a still being a total penis.

Your posts have been rude on a personal level. They are there to make pointless and infantile taunts, (on a thread, which subject you yourself profess to not care a jot about).
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Don't worry, leave him to it! He's talking to himself.
 
story said:
Well all music is derivative to some extent these days. As soon as you get old enough to have explored rock and roll with any degree of involved interest, you'll hear classic game-changing pioneering songs or bands present in any new band. One of the standard ways to talk about a new band is to say "They're like..."

I'm more interested in the combination of references and influences, and how a new band has in any way reinvented something I'm already familiar with. I'm interested to see if a band has discovered rock and roll for themselves, invented it like it never existed before, for their own pleasure and delight, and with a sense of needing to show me, share it with me, force me to pay attention to it. Atomic Suplex is a band like that. Their music is completely familiar, but also delivered and presented like it's the first time these chords have ben put together in quite this way, with this intention, with this kind of urgency.

The Fat White Family have elements of a lot of different bands and genres, including The Fall, Zappa, california surf music, The Gun Club, Sex Pistols, Mediterranean folk and a whole bunch of other stuff.

Maybe we have very different ways of listening to and hearing music, because to my ear they are far from dreary. I wanna know what happens next, where they're gonna go with this, cos even though I know the songs by now, whenever I see them I am still kinda alarmed by what they are doing. That weird counterpoint of chippy-falsetto and grinding-rock vocals of Saul and Lias, the Hank Wangford/Joe Meek rock and roll guitar, all within a standard rockanroll setup, except that somehow it's not. There's a kind of weary cynical delivery, that is also sinister and dangerous and fucked up. They look like swamp monsters hauled up out of their sick beds and forced to play out their internal demons.

I've heard a lot of people say "They're the real deal", and I think that too. I'd not describe them as "edgy" though. Has anyone said that? Given that rockanroll should by definition be out there on the fringes of what is known, accepted, acceptable, understood, then okay, any good rockanroll band is supposed to be edgy. But within that context, FWF is not any more edgy than any other good rockanroll band.

They're young dumb and full of cum, they're broke and they're hungry for their lives to start. They have the arrogance that comes with youth, and the sense of burgeoning power that comes from being creative and having that recognised by others. Lias is clever and thoughtful and interesting. He has charisma and character and balls and brain and heart. He's a great frontman, a constant target for the eye. The rest of the band are cuddled up around him in a churning ball of supportive interactive dark yanking clashing harmonies and chords. And Saul's solos make me feel like something important and necessary is being pulled out of my gut in a long thin line.

I saw them play Hastings on Halloween, and they were terrific. Even when they're shambolic and tired and half of them are lying on the floor to play, they're good. I heard the Marc Riley session, and I was excited to hear that noise coming out of the radio.

I like this band, and I can't wait to see how they are at the 100 club after they've been on the road for a few days.
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Fuck.Me.
Now that's embarrassing.Sycophantic ,treacly ,cliched pap.
It can only've been written by a band member or some hack on a retainer,i can't believe it's real.The fanboy demographic of this band's becoming clearer every time youse open your mouths.
Please keep it comin,it's fierce
 
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bamalama said:
Head boy ,fanboy tag team :D
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What in holy hell is wrong with you?
Nobody is 'fanboing', they are just saying that they like the bands style/music on a thread about said band.

I'll tell you something weird, someone who clearly doesn't like the band, not just saying 'I don't like this band and don't get what all the fuss is about', but calling anyone who does like the music a rabid fan.
What is double weird is that you do this repeatedly on a thread about the band.
 
ATOMIC SUPLEX said:
What in holy hell is wrong with you?
Nobody is 'fanboing', they are just saying that they like the bands style/music on a thread about said band.

I'll tell you something weird, someone who clearly doesn't like the band, not just saying 'I don't like this band and don't get what all the fuss is about', but calling anyone who does like the music a rabid fan.
What is double weird is that you do this repeatedly on a thread about the band.
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I'm havin a bit of craic,what's you and your glass chinned mates' excuse?
Oh, and ye have read the thread right?False incredulity's not big and it's not clever...;)
 
bamalama said:
Fuck.Me.
Now that's embarrassing.Sycophantic ,treacly ,cliched pap.
It can only've been written by a band member or some hack on a retainer,i can't believe it's real.The fanboy demographic of this band's becoming clearer every time youse open your mouths.
Please keep it comin,it's fierce
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Lol bamalama reckons that if someone can string multiple sentences together that actually make sense then there must be something suspicious about it. "Begone with ur book learning! Tis witchcraft!!"
 
bamalama , why don't you show me how to do it properly. Write something about this band - or any band at all - that conveys to me what it's like to listen to that band. Do it without referring to anything that might be considered a recognisable touchstone, or something that I might recognise from any other review I've seen before; do not use any purple prose or emotional descriptions. Don't string together any adjectives that may have been used in a band review before. In fact, it shouldn't be recognisable as writing about music at all. And I want to get a real sense of what it's like to hear that band, to see them live. But I don't want to know whether or not you like the band. And you have to do it without saying anything that reminds me of any other music or musician I already know about. Or makes me think about any genre or style I may already know about. In 500 words. By lunchtime tomorrow, regardless of hangover. Without missing band practice.
 
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What, we're not allowed to find bands derivative anymore? WTF

There's a difference between riffing off genres and being derivative. The latter usually, but not necessarily, implies a lack of quality.
 
ATOMIC SUPLEX said:
If you are referring to the remarks towards Saul earlier in the thread, I think only a fool would not be completely satisfied that they have all been addressed.
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What absolute rubbish. They haven't been addressed at all.

The band and their manager have insisted that they aren't racist, but haven't commented about the specific claims made in this thread.
 
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