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F*cking nightmare of a bastard commute

In the bank, of course. Vouchers are useless if you have a season ticket, as the last thing you want to do is set foot on a train after commuting every day.

You can normally travel with the season ticket anyway.

The only time I got sorted SWT gave me £20 in cold, hard cash. Was spunked by lunchtime.
 
Terminating my train half way through its journey this morning. Thanks, Southwest trains!
 
Southern Rail staff looking to strike next week. As if the emergency timetable wasn't enough of an ongoing industrial dispute...:rolleyes:
 
Another hole has appeared in Forest Hill , ......not the same one re-opened by all accounts. Is there any coal down there I wonder ..?
 
Would normally take 1 hour 15 - I hour 30 to get home on Fridays. Left at 11:50, just got in.

#grumpyboots
 
Just bought my ticket for next week with a load of vouchers (£16.80). The lady behind the counter was commending me on doing it. She says she encourages everyone to but most can't be bothered.

I realise there is a strike next week but if I have my ticket then I can still get on the tubes and buses for cheaper so it has to be done.
 
So hot to London Bridge today and heard an announcement for the 17.50 to Tulse Hill that hasn't existed on the emergency timetable. The 18.08 was up on the board too and that hasn't been there in these 'emergency' times.

Did a search for tomorrow's trains and they still aren't showing.

What's occurring?
 
First train got cancelled. Replacement was late enough that the one after came first.

Got on a tube. Driver told us to cross over the platform and use the other train.

Then calmly closed the doors with the three remaining people on his train and carried on his merry way.

You've got to laugh or else you'll just start lashing out blindly.
 
We’re Hiring : Toss Management at Southern Rail

'
Are you world class at not giving a toss about customers ?

Southern Rail is a leader in the avoidance of toss giving and we are looking to lead our team of indifference solutions into the 20th century. You will innovate new ways of not giving a toss about customers and gain new skills in disruptive failure to deliver a service so wretched that customers can't see the difference between malice and incompetence....'

Tossers...:)
 
And Apple only sell their toot in Ireland :rolleyes:
Apart from the "Oh isn't this terrible" thing, exactly what difference does that actually make to the current goings on at Southern? It's not really a money issue. It's a staff deployment dispute and infrastructure (which is nothing to do with GTR) problem issue.

And in any case the revenue made by Southern goes to the DfT, which the deal they are running the service under.
 
Apart from the "Oh isn't this terrible" thing, exactly what difference does that actually make to the current goings on at Southern? It's not really a money issue. It's a staff deployment dispute and infrastructure (which is nothing to do with GTR) problem issue.

And in any case the revenue made by Southern goes to the DfT, which the deal they are running the service under.


If you'd lost your job cos of their incompetence you may be singing a different tune.

They have taken on the job, they can't do it, they should be stripped of all assests and put in the stocks, forever.
 
If you'd lost your job cos of their incompetence you may be singing a different tune.

They have taken on the job, they can't do it, they should be stripped of all assests and put in the stocks, forever.
Except that up until a few years ago they were doing the job just fine. Until the problems at London Bridge....nothing to do with them....and the staffing dispute, which was initiated by the policy of the DfT.

The whole "strip them of their franchise" thing is a complete red herring because any company that took over would be facing exactly the same problems that Southern are having. And who would want to run that franchise atm anyway? No one!
 
Except that up until a few years ago they were doing the job just fine. Until the problems at London Bridge....nothing to do with them....and the staffing dispute, which was initiated by the policy of the DfT.

The whole "strip them of their franchise" thing is a complete red herring because any company that took over would be facing exactly the same problems that Southern are having. And who would want to run that franchise atm anyway? No one!


This blaming the DfT is such a crock of shit spoon fed to idiots looking to appease the money grabbing scumbags. IF it was a genuine DfT initiative, a professional operator would have told them to get fucked, foreseeing the problems that would be caused.
 
I did read that at the last discussions around the table Southern offered union members guarantees that up to the end of the current franchise there would be no loss of conductor staff while drivers were asked to close the doors, and there'd be no reduction in pay or overtime - basically saying, your job and pay is guaranteed up to the end of the franchise. If true then I'm blaming the unions for striking as I really can't see what more the company can offer.

But at the same time if the company have made £100m (even if it's on the buses, it's the same company) they should fucking well invest it in all sorts of areas lacking at the moment :mad::mad::mad:. Maybe give incentives for staff to return to work.

Either way Govia needs stripping of the franchise and told to fuck off based on their mis-management of the whole issue, let alone the appaling sevice.
 
This blaming the DfT is such a crock of shit spoon fed to idiots looking to appease the money grabbing scumbags. IF it was a genuine DfT initiative, a professional operator would have told them to get fucked, foreseeing the problems that would be caused.
And how would they have done that exactly? It is a franchise stipulation. TOCs have to run their franchises under the terms laid down by the DfT.
 
I did read that at the last discussions around the table Southern offered union members guarantees that up to the end of the current franchise there would be no loss of conductor staff while drivers were asked to close the doors, and there'd be no reduction in pay or overtime - basically saying, your job and pay is guaranteed up to the end of the franchise. If true then I'm blaming the unions for striking as I really can't see what more the company can offer.

But at the same time if the company have made £100m (even if it's on the buses, it's the same company) they should fucking well invest it in all sorts of areas lacking at the moment :mad::mad::mad:. Maybe give incentives for staff to return to work.

Either way Govia needs stripping of the franchise and told to fuck off based on their mis-management of the whole issue, let alone the appaling sevice.
The union's argument is that the change in role GTR want to introduce is just not safe - that's the reason for the strikes. Whether that is true or not depends on who you want to believe.

And invest in which areas though? The £20 million figure that is going around atm isn't going to them (despite what is being claimed by headlines in the media), it's going to Network Rail. The vast majority is being spend on infrastructure.
 
And how would they have done that exactly? It is a franchise stipulation. TOCs have to run their franchises under the terms laid down by the DfT.

They would have said, "We're professionals and what you're proposing will cause problems and as we're a professional TOC and not vacuous, money-grabbing scumbags, we will not take up the franchise under these terms."
 
The union's argument is that the change in role GTR want to introduce is just not safe - that's the reason for the strikes. Whether that is true or not depends on who you want to believe.

And invest in which areas though? The £20 million figure that is going around atm isn't going to them (despite what is being claimed by headlines in the media), it's going to Network Rail. The vast majority is being spend on infrastructure.

You need someone going up and down the train I absolutely agree, but you don't necessarily need them to close the doors. You'd need station staff at busy stations for this I reckon, which is the majority at rush hour for sure. But ultimately technology will automate the whole thing. Technology will march on. They can keep striking up to then but then there'll be no job to strike from.

But the key point is the company are fuckers.
 
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