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Couriers use Waze not Google.

Waze gives better routes and is updated for road problems better than Google .

I use Google maps for certain parts of rural routes as you can download offline maps, handy for when there is no signal and Amazon app stops working.

Amazon currently use mapbox which is inferior to its previous provider (can’t remember who) which had offline maps for seamless use when there was no signal. The new mapbox does have offline maps feature only it doesn’t work and hasn’t since it was introduced.
 
Interesting development today as XR protested outside New Scotland Yard over attacks on disabled rebels, specifically the police removal of infrastructure (toilets, shelter etc). This is the first deliberately anti police thing XR have done or endorsed.

Good.

I mentioned on the bandwidth thread of all places, but a blind XR glued himself to a plane at City Airport. By the time they got him to court the filth still hadn’t given him his cane back, his brief had to beg the mag for it to be returned. Shit way to treat anyone.
 
https://www.taxi-point.co.uk/single...continue-to-bring-Westminster-to-a-standstill

The question in my mind is why these regular planned protests by Black Cab drivers haven't been treated in the same was as XR two week protest?

I don't hear Cressida Dick talking about a more "assertive" policing when it comes down to Cabbies planned and frequent blocking of the highway.

I've nothing against Cabbies. Its that there appears to me a difference in policing.
 
https://www.taxi-point.co.uk/single...continue-to-bring-Westminster-to-a-standstill

The question in my mind is why these regular planned protests by Black Cab drivers haven't been treated in the same was as XR two week protest?

I don't hear Cressida Dick talking about a more "assertive" policing when it comes down to Cabbies planned and frequent blocking of the highway.

I've nothing against Cabbies. Its that there appears to me a difference in policing.

Pretty sure the cabbies have never intended to stay put for days/weeks at a time.

Didn’t they also do slow drives around town to show their displeasure at Uber?
 
Food deliveries is the big growth industry. As you say its marketed as on demand system.
Definitely that's the one that's growing now. All part of the same structure though and using the same basic infrastructure - order shit via app and have it delivered. There's no real difference between the social position of Uber drivers, Deliveroo riders or eBay couriers.
 
Cycle Couriers haven't been complaining that I know of. When XR occupied Trafalgar Square to start with they put a cycle lane through it so cyclists could get through easily.

The shouty commuter cyclist doesn't like anyone getting in the way even for a second. I've had run ins with that type.
I only ever saw/heard one, to be fair. #1 is easily the smallest sector, though I can't account for anyone who was swearing at XR inside their car.
 
Good.

I mentioned on the bandwidth thread of all places, but a blind XR glued himself to a plane at City Airport. By the time they got him to court the filth still hadn’t given him his cane back, his brief had to beg the mag for it to be returned. Shit way to treat anyone.
This isn't the only instance of deliberately giving disabled activists a hard time - protests today about deliberate targeting and confiscation of vital equipment XR Disabled Rebels (@XRDisabledRebel) on Twitter:

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Pretty sure the cabbies have never intended to stay put for days/weeks at a time.

Didn’t they also do slow drives around town to show their displeasure at Uber?

The Cabbies protests have been causing regular disruption over a long period of time. Its planned and coordinated blockage of the highway.

My question still stands. Why have XR been subject to what Cressida Dick called "assertive" policing to get protestors off the road when the same hasn't been done in the case of Black Cab protests?
 
So any worker embarking on industrial action should be expected to reimburse anyone negatively affected by it, yes?

Only if they had the kind of funds XR have at their disposal, currently nearing £1 million fwiu.

As I’ve already posted XR are paying out ‘expenses’ to activists, I might apply as it may have better sociable hours and pay compared to Amazon, plus you get to party in the streets.
 
Good.

I mentioned on the bandwidth thread of all places, but a blind XR glued himself to a plane at City Airport. By the time they got him to court the filth still hadn’t given him his cane back, his brief had to beg the mag for it to be returned. Shit way to treat anyone.
They wouldn't let him have an audio book on his cell either cos it was on a tablet
 
Only if they had the kind of funds XR have at their disposal, currently nearing £1 million fwiu.

As I’ve already posted XR are paying out ‘expenses’ to activists, I might apply as it may have better sociable hours and pay compared to Amazon, plus you get to party in the streets.
Unions incur costs taking industrial action or organising demos and set pieces too. And the big unions have far more than £1m at their disposal. Look at what XR are putting on, that doesn't happen for nothing. One thing to be said for them is they understand the need to create a spectacle, it's not just a big banner and a few thousand placards for marching from a to b. I've got my own criticisms of XR but I doubt those expenses are for prosecco and oyster dinners. Who knows, maybe there are a few first class train tickets in there but still, attacking XR for spending on their demos and actions is a weak line of attack
 
I don’t, they’ve been massively against cycle infrastructure and healthier cities initiatives.

XR are an easier target for the police to push around.

I cycle around Central London five days a week and I have a lot of sympathy for cabbies.

I know a few. Its one of the last working class jobs in London ( now printing and docking has gone) where an ordinary working class person can earn a decent wage.

They have been trying to protect their livelihoods.

Cabbies trust in TFL and the mayor would have been greater if Uber hadn't been allowed in London. If I was a Cabbie Id wonder what the long term future of the trade is.
 
I cycle around Central London five days a week and I have a lot of sympathy for cabbies.

I know a few. Its one of the last working class jobs in London ( now printing and docking has gone) where an ordinary working class person can earn a decent wage.

They have been trying to protect their livelihoods.

Cabbies trust in TFL and the mayor would have been greater if Uber hadn't been allowed in London. If I was a Cabbie Id wonder what the long term future of the trade is.
It’s actually a good example for this thread because it’s a massively polluting form of transport - those empty cabs driving around looking for fares and it’s mainly used by wealthy people. They don’t want anything to threaten their position and that means opposing stuff like cycle lanes.
 
I cycle around Central London five days a week and I have a lot of sympathy for cabbies.

I know a few. Its one of the last working class jobs in London ( now printing and docking has gone) where an ordinary working class person can earn a decent wage.

They have been trying to protect their livelihoods.

Cabbies trust in TFL and the mayor would have been greater if Uber hadn't been allowed in London. If I was a Cabbie Id wonder what the long term future of the trade is.

It’s actually a good example for this thread because it’s a massively polluting form of transport - those empty cabs driving around looking for fares and it’s mainly used by wealthy people. They don’t want anything to threaten their position and that means opposing stuff like cycle lanes.

both valid and pertinent posts :thumbs:
 
Interesting development today as XR protested outside New Scotland Yard over attacks on disabled rebels, specifically the police removal of infrastructure (toilets, shelter etc). This is the first deliberately anti police thing XR have done or endorsed.
if you want to support this action and you can get to Brixton police station there is a call out for arrest support
We are in urgent need of support at the following stations:
Brixton station 12a-6a 6a-12p
Charing X 6am-12


Brixton WhatsApp: Brixton Station support
Charing X WhatsApp: Charing Cross Police stn
 
if you want to support this action and you can get to Brixton police station there is a call out for arrest support
We are in urgent need of support at the following stations:
Brixton station 12a-6a 6a-12p
Charing X 6am-12


Brixton WhatsApp: Brixton Station support
Charing X WhatsApp: Charing Cross Police stn
Hi - sorry to be a bit thick (and I can't access whats app as I don't have a modern phone) is arrest support something specific or just a demo outside the police station? what does 12a-6a 6a-12p mean?
I'll be going past the Police Station and would like to show my support.
 
It's taking a shift waiting inside [if you can get in] a police station in case arrested people get out
If a person [from XR] is released while you're there you can offer them a snack/coffee [and anyone else in the waiting area who needs it too]
Check they have somewhere to go [especially if it's middle of the night] have an oyster to get there [they might have given all their stuff to someone else]
Let them use your phone to call someone
Take a charger to help them charge their phone
Let them use your phone to send through their details [if they want] to the XR legal back team for follow up later
Or give them the email/phone number of the XR legal team for them to follow up later

It's also about keeping another arrest support person company especially on the midnight - 6am shift
 
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Hi - sorry to be a bit thick (and I can't access whats app as I don't have a modern phone) is arrest support something specific or just a demo outside the police station? what does 12a-6a 6a-12p mean?
I'll be going past the Police Station and would like to show my support.
It's going inside police stations where you can - at Brixton now it would be keeping the arrest support person company for a bit and/or taking some snacks in

Let me know if you are going in and I'll update the whatsapp chat so that a person knows to expect you
XR supporters are often easy to spot;)

12am-6am shift
6am - 12pm shift
but any time anyone can give is valuable
 
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What is arrest support?

eta: looks like you have to be trained for it. Can untrained people help?
absolutely - it's really just being somewhere and waiting patiently. Many times you'll wait and no one will be released during the time you are there but sometimes lots of people get released and they really appreciate a friendly face at the end. Or a chance to say how they feel. Or a coffee. or a chance to call a friend. Or help orientating themselves and locating public transport. The only technical thing is to get them to contact the legal team - either via your smart phone or via the details you give them to do it themselves later.

If you or anyone else wants to do it you can access info by joining the whatsapp groups and asking for instructions

here is the google map with the police station groups across London so you can join a whatapp chat for a police station near you Police Station Support Group Map - Google My Maps

ETA take something to read or watch - it's a lot of waiting about
 
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Extinction Rebellion bring traffic to standstill around Bank of England as group targets City of London

Extinction Rebellion protesters have blocked roads outside the Bank of England as it bids to "swarm" the City of London in order to cause "maximum disruption" as the second week of protests begin in the capital.

Twenty double-decker buses queuing down Lombard Street and King William Street were rendered stationary by the climate change protesters at Bank station.

The driver of the bus at the front of the queue said he had been stuck there for two hours - since 7am - and protesters showed no signs of moving.

Protesters were seen handing out leaflets which say "We're sorry" and explaining why they are protesting.

A normal 30min journey by this motorcyclist took and eye watering 1hr 20mins due to XR’s highly effective disruptions (bear in mind this guy knows all the short cuts possible in London and can normally weave through the heaviest of congestion). He has a brief chat with a bus driver (5mins in) who has covered less than 1 mile in an hour.

 
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