TopCat
Putin fanboy
Who would volunteer to take your penis out, hold it and shake it after? This lot are disciplined if they have all that sorted.
Extinction Rebellion
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh. how would you open the zip and adjust the bucket while your hands are chained?
TopCat
Putin fanboy
It would be sods law I needed a massive dump that weighed the same as my head.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
You would need to be naked down below.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Really? Which bit goes where?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
and how would you attach it while you're locked on?
TopCat
Putin fanboy
I have asked much of others on demos but never this.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
it is an ask too far
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
not-bono-ever
meh
guess who tried to get to NW london in a rental van today ? I left at 10AM and have just arrived back via The blackwall tunnel. 6 hours to do a r/t of 20 km tops.grrrr. i have just destroyed the planet personally with my emissions
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh not sure the re lot really thought through the impact their demonstration might have
I think they did.
A 1%change in London emissions on a Saturday is irrelevant
Changing the entire UK approach to climate extinction would seem to be a useful piece of work.
Watching people treat climate change protest as "it makes it harder for someone to go to work so you should not protest" is the epitome of the "biggest problem is the moderate liberal".
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
My journey to work, and indeed my journey back again, wholly unaffected by this event: must try harder. Didn't realise not-bono-ever was doing something for work, thought it was a chore he'd been putting off
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
Yeah, I thought of that, but suspect they were just nervous about how many people they could get out on a weekday. If it snowballs as they want and they can get more bodies involved I suspect they will call a weekday blockade.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
They have been doing weekday actions - it's just that this one is bigger, and also in concert with others around the world.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
ER are moderate liberals. They're all about asking the state to fix everything and being nice to coppers in the meantime.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
2009?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
That seems to be the whole strategy, get as many people arrested as possible.
If the police didn't invent ER I bet they wish they had.
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
March 26th 2011
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Ah yes, it slipped my mind
not-bono-ever
meh
very much a chore. i try not to go north of the river unless i have to. second hand sofa collection rather than getting a new one. its a bit masochistic to want to drive across central london at the weekend out of choice
not-bono-ever
meh
my personal hell aside, i dont have an issue with this kind of disruptive action - it garners publicity and no one got hurt
One interesting (for me) thing about the demo was the teach-in aspect of it. The bridge I was on had a lot of the Lancashire Nanas there, and the PA was being used to inform people about the anti-fracking protests and demos going on. So exposing some of the moderate liberals to other activities going in.
So yes, it is designed to draw in moderate liberals. And some of them will become more solid activists, while others will provide the water in which the fish swims (as it were)
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Do you really think that more radical action from ER would get fewer people arrested? I doubt that it would.
I've got my misgivings about this group, but I don't think that yours is a fair criticism.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
There is such a thing as not getting caught.
Now you have seventy people who are gonna spend the next six months or a year dealing with court cases and lawyers. All for an action that wasn't 'direct' at all. It was a publicity stunt.
I've done the get arrested on purpose model of eco activism. It's shit, but it has a purpose if you pick an actual target, and no 'getting yourself in the papers' is not a valid target.
Jeremiah18.17
Well-Known Member
To be fair to XR this was just a start - the serious stuff comes where they try to, as promised, cause economic disruption and loss. This would probably mean attempts at shutting down parts of the City of London and/or, for example, fuel distribution centres. These types of actions will of course be treated far more seriously by authorities - probably coming under definition of domestic extremism if not a higher designation. In that light, these initial actions can be seen as a “lead in”, “blooding” a new wave of activists, so to speak, in a less threatening environment that the state does not take as seriously (after all what is the closure of even 5 bridges in London - on one day - in the grand scheme of things? )
The mettle of XR will be seen when, and if it can, actually cause effective disruption to Capital rather than symbolic disruption to The Capital.....
