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Yes, but that can be as simple as they think they people will go and do it again is released.

I remember this from the miners strike, friends who were arrested and charged for offences while picketing were denied bail. Because they’d be back there the following day.
Several received short prison sentences.
 
Don't they normally have to give a reason for denying bail? None is mentioned there or in the BBC story I've read.
Can't they just section them.

Who waits til all the politicans are on holiday to organise a protest. Who decides the best way to address climate change is to fuck up public transport and cause traffic jams. All in a country thats done more to reduce carbon emissions than any other developed nation.

Probably start burning down trees next
 
I remember this from the miners strike, friends who were arrested and charged for offences while picketing were denied bail. Because they’d be back there the following day.
Several received short prison sentences.
Maximum sentence for this is two years. Malicious Damage Act 1861

Annex 1 on this link has a lovely flowchart:

Bail | The Crown Prosecution Service

EXCEPTIONS TO THE GENERAL RIGHT TO BAIL

a. There are substantial grounds for believing that the defendant would fail to surrender, commit an offence on bail or interfere with witnesses or otherwise obstruct the course of justice. This exception cannot apply if defendant is not convicted AND no real prospect that he will be sentenced to custody in the proceedings


b. There are substantial grounds for believing that the defendant would commit an offence on bail by engaging in conduct that would, or would be likely to – (a) cause physical or mental injury to an associated person; or (b) an associated person to fear physical or mental injury. Associated person defined by Family Law Act -

relatives, spouse/civil-partner, cohabitants or those in an intimate relationship of a significant duration.


c. It appears to the court that the defendant was on bail on the date of offence. This exception cannot apply if defendant is not convicted AND no real prospect that he will be sentenced to custody in the proceedings


d. Having previously been released on bail in, or in connection with the proceedings the defendant has been arrested for failing to surrender or for breach of bail conditions. This exception cannot apply if defendant is not convicted AND no real prospect that he will be sentenced to custody in the proceedings



e. The defendant should be kept in custody for his own protection

f. The defendant is a serving prisoner

g. It is not practicable to obtain sufficient information for the purpose of determining bail for want of time since the institution of proceedings against the defendant.

h. Where a case is adjourned for inquiries or a report, it is impracticable to complete inquiries or make a report without keeping the defendant in custody
 
Can't they just section them.

Who waits til all the politicans are on holiday to organise a protest. Who decides the best way to address climate change is to fuck up public transport and cause traffic jams. All in a country thats done more to reduce carbon emissions than any other developed nation.

Probably start burning down trees next
You are right. This disruption to public order is unforgivable.

Wtf...
 
Talk of action at Heathrow over the weekend. Fucking over people's holidays at easter could change the tone of things and public support.
 
Can't they just section them.

Who waits til all the politicans are on holiday to organise a protest. Who decides the best way to address climate change is to fuck up public transport and cause traffic jams. All in a country thats done more to reduce carbon emissions than any other developed nation.

Probably start burning down trees next

:D

1 DLR train. Also I'm not sure its possible to discern traffic jams caused by this from traffic jams caused by everything else in London. If you're not a fan of traffic jams you probably shouldn't be driving on London.

Good effort though, will kick the Easter weekend off nicely.
 
I'm in folkestone for the easter weekend, what are the chances of this still being on by saturday?

Looks to me that they are holding on despite the police. Parliament square was cleared last night and they were back the same morning. Police don't have manpower to deal with mobile protest.

Plus I guess more will come on weekend. As not working.

So yes come and have a look.
 
Talk of action at Heathrow over the weekend. Fucking over people's holidays at easter could change the tone of things and public support.

City Airport's not letting anyone in the terminal unless they're on a plane. Seems pretty pointless. I'm sure they could shell out for a couple of tickets.
 
Given what nearly happened to the Stansted lot it'd be a very risky thing to do if you quite like your liberty.
 
Can't they just section them.

Who waits til all the politicans are on holiday to organise a protest. Who decides the best way to address climate change is to fuck up public transport and cause traffic jams. All in a country thats done more to reduce carbon emissions than any other developed nation.

Probably start burning down trees next
How dare they demonstrate during the parliamentary recess :mad:
 
Protests that enjoy widespread support don't put pressure on governments to do anything. You put pressure on the government by making life difficult.
Hitting airports just puts pressure on the the government/police to clear them. Disrupting people's daily routines and causing traffic jams is one thing. Wrecking holiday plans, medical supply flights/connections etc, is something else.
 
Given what nearly happened to the Stansted lot it'd be a very risky thing to do if you quite like your liberty.

The police love this shower because of their aggressive pro-snitching policy and their complete lack of basic security.
 
The police love this shower because of their aggressive pro-snitching policy and their complete lack of basic security.

This isnt quite true or fair.

Easy to say this when you havent actually come down and had a look. There are lots of different opinions and more militant voices too. Sure there are a few daft spokespeople but that doesnt define thousands of people. There is also lots of public engagement and interest, from what Ive seen. People who might not otherwise be involved or hear about such stuff.

I am aware of the purer than pure criticisms to be made, but the fact that the liberal press and establishment are moaning about economic impact, effect on daily lives and undemocratic forceful action should show us the need for solidarity and support. Maybe not uncritically but definitely not just moaning and dismissing. Whats the point in left politics if it isnt engaging with whats happening now rather than the idealised past or future.
 
Maybe not uncritically but definitely not just moaning and dismissing. Whats the point in left politics if it isnt engaging with whats happening now

This.

Whilst I'm pretty critical of XR thus far, I'm in no way condemning or dismissing them.

Struggle changes people.

I'm drawing from my own experience of seeing movements change, for better and for worse, as a result of struggle and am watching with an open mind to see what happens with XR.
 
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