Extinction Rebellion
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Miss-Shelf
I'll meet you further on up the road
The group's in PS are generally really strong. Every arrestable person has a non arrestable person (as far as that holds) looking out for them.
Footfall through the square has increased this week due to bus disruption.
Regular walkers too have made contact. Some stopped and chatted
Protesters more humanised as a result than if seen remotely on tv at a demo
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I noticed a lot more cops at Parliament Square.
The protest has been effective at disrupting London and starting to get mainstream media attention.
Closing roads is imo good idea. Most people who work in London use public transport. As long as Tubes aren't targeted its not causing the average working Londoner to much problem. Buses in central London are painfully slow due to so much traffic so not a great loss losing some of them. Most people walk across Waterloo bridge anyway to the station as its quicker. Boris bikes are doing well.
Was getting a coffee near Waterloo bridge and overheard a few office workers saying how good the Waterloo bridge demo was. Making it fun does work.
The Evening Standard, editor ex Tory minister Osborne, headline is Climate change demo costs West End 12 million.
I expect the Met is under pressure now to start to close down the protest.
Miss-Shelf
I'll meet you further on up the road
I expect so
More Londoners down to observe from pavements really helps resolve of people in the road
Waterloo Bridge/Oxford circus
also needs support
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I've been impressed at the level of organisation and discipline of the Extinction Rebellion protest. As someone who is around West End all day Ive seen a lot of it. Hope my small contribution of photo updates helps. editor has been putting them on Urban75 blog.
Also making it fun.
Miss-Shelf
I'll meet you further on up the road
I feel particularly fond of the parliament square camp because it's all the northerners/east Anglians and they're friendly/easy on the whole
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Everything seems to be still going this morning from what I can see.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Posh fragrant lady from last night’s BBC interview reckoned the plan was to keep going for another week or two but I can’t see the police staying as fluffy or the public as supportive for that long.
pesh
Well-Known Member
he's just giving it the large because he managed to cost The Evening Standard £12 million all by himself.
Libertad
Sparking up a rollie in the Reichstag
The Cunty of Monte Christo.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Its been on the radio four news twice this morning. Interviews with ER supporters.
Dr Gail Bradbrook was one. A founder of ER.
Discussion was about whether governments were doing enough.
Centred on whether zero carbon economy should come by 2025 or year 2050. ER saying earlier date. This would need drastic changes. So she was saying there should be a state of emergency like would happen in war time.
She did say that climate change should be on news every day as its the worlds biggest threat. She has a point. Brexit has dominated news for last year to the exclusion of all else.
Whether in a democracy people will accept zero carbon economy by 2025 is a question. The government during WW2 wasn't that democratic due to threat to the country.
I think, from what I've seen, is that ER want a culture change. So move to what is in effect different way of life is seen by people as positive change.
Dr Gail Bradbrook was one. A founder of ER.
Discussion was about whether governments were doing enough.
Centred on whether zero carbon economy should come by 2025 or year 2050. ER saying earlier date. This would need drastic changes. So she was saying there should be a state of emergency like would happen in war time.
She did say that climate change should be on news every day as its the worlds biggest threat. She has a point. Brexit has dominated news for last year to the exclusion of all else.
Whether in a democracy people will accept zero carbon economy by 2025 is a question. The government during WW2 wasn't that democratic due to threat to the country.
I think, from what I've seen, is that ER want a culture change. So move to what is in effect different way of life is seen by people as positive change.
Kinda agree but I'm amazed it's lasted this long and been so low key this long.
It just seems to be there, there isn't a huge amount of outrage and the city doesn't really seem to be grinding to a halt because of it.
It almost feels like TfL letting it live as an experiment or something - the pedestrianisation of Oxford Street.
maomao
普費斯
It's one of the quietest weeks of the year for traffic anyway. And they haven't attacked the 'city' (financial districts) as such.
Despite the fellow on the news saying we're losing twelve million quid a day because of it I would have thought it's a bit of a draw to the West End if anything. And all the protestors need to eat and drink.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Rather clumsily hostile interview I thought but pretty typical of Today. Constantly trying to sidetrack it onto specifics, which also seemed to be to try to get some sort of scary quote out of her, but not even that was very well done.
ETA: at one point the interviewer even said something like "well we don't want to talk about the issue here"
A completely meaningless number pulled from his arse. Its like when the CBI are trying to make a point about workers stopping for a cup of tea costs the UK economy £1b a year or some such nonsense. You know its meaningless as its always a round number.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Also everyone I've ever met just says "good" when they hear these figures, even if they know they're rubbish. It's always seen as some miserable bunch of bastards trying to cancel Christmas so some rich fucker can buy another yacht. So not really a PR tactic I'd advise anyone to associate themselves with, particularly if they're trying to avoid looking like they care more about profits than people (or indeed the fate of the planet).
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Yeah, and I guess what should be clear is that whatever you think of ER on a strategic/tactical level with these actions and what they're saying, politically they're a pressure group seeking government reforms (albeit massive ones). Whether they manage to escape these confines is yet to be seen, but highly unlikely I'd say.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Well they're not smashing anything up, they're making a point that most people agree with anyway and generally speaking people are getting to and from work ok without worrying about getting caught up in a riot.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
As quite a coarse generalisation, buses in London are more used by poorer people, tubes are quite middle class. Hitting the tube will get more attention and cause moe whinging. Nobody will give a fuck about office cleaners stuck on a bus.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Oh do us a favour!
Hitting the tube will get more attention because that's just how most people get to work in central London north of the river and people commute into mainline stations that are served by the tube rather than buses. If you live or work south of the river, chances are you'll use buses more regardless of what fucking class you are because the tube network's more limited.
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kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
Yes, quite a coarse generalisation indeed! When I catch the District line from Barking to Dagenham Heathway the clink of porcelain, the rustle of Guardians, and the yawwing of the middle classes deafens...
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
The three activists charged in connection with the protest on the DLR train have been denied bail, having pleaded not guilty, and will appear in Crown Court on 16th May.
Climate change activists denied bail after DLR glue protest
Climate change activists denied bail after DLR glue protest
andysays
Love and solidarity
Don't they normally have to give a reason for denying bail? None is mentioned there or in the BBC story I've read.
