From the article I posted :
Corbyn spent the first two weeks of his leadership backing down and capitulating on precisely the things his supporters wanted from him. He was forced to make the vote over scrapping Trident and opposing the current austerity measures a free vote, meaning MPs were able to ignore him. He also stated that his opposition to the benefits cap was purely personal and worst of all, he stated that Labour, if elected, would work within the same budget laid out by the Tories. We should not be surprised by his well-intentioned lies. Corbyn is just one in a long line of ‘new hopes’ of the Left, designed to fail before they have even started. PASOK and SYRIZA in Greece betrayed their supporters. The Irish and German Green Parties sold out to get a chair at the table. Podemos in Spain u-turned on their radical rhetoric.
An opponent of immigration controls, at the last election Corbyn promised the most right-wing Labour policy on immigration in over 30 years. An opponent of NATO, he regarded it as a “danger to world peace” and socialists had to campaign against it. He now embraced NATO, saying that “I want to work within NATO to achieve stability”. A life-long opponent of the monarchy, Corbyn now stated that the abolition of the monarchy “is not on my agenda.” A critic of the police and its shoot-to-kill policy he once laid a wreath to victims of police violence at the Cenotaph. He now said that the police should use: “whatever force is necessary to protect and save life.” Labour pledged to increase the number of police by 10,000 and the number of prison warders by 3,000 and border guards by 500.
How much more would Corbyn have turned to the right if he were Prime Minister?
You keep arguing a straw man based on some notion I don't hold that labour are perfect and the tories aren't. I don't think that. I simply think that a Labour government wouldn't be
as bad as the Tories. That's the best we can hope from this system, and said system ain't going anywhere anytime soon. I wish that were different, but until then it is a tool we can use. As such, as part of the struggle, we should use it to our advantage. Why? Because if we don't the Tories will.
This pablum about Corbyn is just irrelevant mate. No one is saying that, had he won, he'd have turned into Trotsky. The point is that he wouldn't have turned into Boris Johnson.
It's a shit situation we are in. Capitalism is dominant, faltering, and the far right are popular. Critical thinking has taken a back seat to rhetoric and fear. But to argue only for idealistic outcomes over small modest changes - even possibilities - makes absolutely no sense.
Arguing about what a monster Jeremy
might have been, as PM, is utterly irrelevant. It's also just ill intentioned speculation. Yes I grant he
might have conceded on a number of issues. But where is the evidence he would have been as bad as the fucking Tories right now? Currently Johnson is happy for a thousand covid deaths a week. Has lied at the despath box every fucking time he's spoken, and his ruinous duplicitous brexit has made things worse than they needed to be. Of course that's just a small spoonful of the shit the Tories have created. Do you really think he'd have created the kind of spiteful policies Priti Patel has allowed, for example? On what evidence?
Don't forget that Corbyn, while I grant he may have watered down his positions, was under repeated and very public fire from his own parliamentary party since day 1. While many Tories do think Johnson is a clown, they don't show it in the same way. They stick together, like shitbirds of a feather, like thieves. Labour had the scum like Ian Austin publicly call for people to vote for the Tories! For all his faults, Corbyn has remained pretty consistent on his principles throughout his career. Boris on the other hand has been a grasping mendacious opportunist. There is no comparison and it is fucking obvious who would have been the better choice.
There's a huge difference between watering down policies, and I'm not naive to the fact that happens, and turning to the right and it's intellectually dishonest of you to elide the two.
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