Essential Trump/Alt-Right Ridicule Thread

[quiet guy]

It gets worse:

And Jacinta Ardern is a bloke..!

Is the big left hand because he's been a bit too vigorous with his chipolata?

 

[two sheds]

Response: Educated voters.

 

[Ax^]

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Response: Educated voters.

women who vote.

 

[Ax^]

Response: Educated voters.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

women who vote.

Much more so women who take direct action

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Much more so women who take direct action

Direct action is really, really important, but they wouldn't have banned women (or anyone else) from voting if it didn't make any difference.

I'd still like an answer about what direct action projects you're involved in, or have been involved in. Or, should I put you back on ignore?

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Direct action is really, really important, but they wouldn't have tried to ban women from voting if it didn't make any difference.

I agree more with Emma Goldman and not just about voting.

 

[Ax^]

Much more so women who take direct action

 

[Storm Fox]

This is an interesting deep-dive youtube vid into Trump and MAGA, including a section on whether it's a cult and if it is, whether people should be given more leniency and deprogrammed.

Spoiler: YouTube Vid

 

[AmateurAgitator]

women who vote.

Things would be so much better if more people made a real effort to be ungovernable, then we'd actually be getting somewhere.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I agree more with Emma Goldman and not just about voting.

She wasn't against women voting, per se. She just thought it shouldn't be an end in itself, or the ultimate goal and I can agree with that.

Still no answer to my question.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

She wasn't against women voting, per se.

And yet she literally said that "if voting changed anything they'd make it illegal." She also refused to call herself a feminist because of the connotations at the time with women's suffrage. And she was locked up for her deeds rather than anything else.

Like her I like to put emphasis on becoming ungovernable rather than supporting and participating in a failed system.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

I'd still like an answer about what direct action projects you're involved in, or have been involved in. Or, should I put you back on ignore?

Why is it so important to you wether or not I've been involved in 'direct action projects' and why do you think I'd definitely want to talk about such things on here? It has no relevance to anything.

 

[Yossarian]

 

[DaveCinzano]

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Terrible pizzas, mind

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Why is it so important to you wether or not I've been involved in 'direct action projects' and why do you think I'd definitely want to talk about such things on here? It has no relevance to anything.

Of course it does. For one thing you've stated that is the place we should be putting all of our efforts. I want to know if you're practicing what you preach. It goes to your credibility. I had a Zen teacher who said, "how you do anything is how you do everything." So far all I've seen you do is lecture everyone about how pure your political philosophy is in comparison to everyone else. I'm waiting to see if there's actual substance or if you're just another guy yelling on the internet from his mom's basement.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

And yet she literally said that "if voting changed anything they'd make it illegal." She also refused to call herself a feminist because of the connotations at the time with women's suffrage. And she was locked up for her deeds rather than anything else.

Like her I like to put emphasis on becoming ungovernable rather than supporting and participating in a failed system.

Except she didn't say that. That quote has been attributed to at least three authors, including Mark Twain and peace activist Phillip Berrigan.
Plus, there's the fact that those in power have repeatedly sought to limit certain groups from voting--the poor, women, former slaves, natives, etc. Sometimes this has been through absolute prohibition, but also through literacy tests, poll taxes, fewer voting places in minority neighborhoods, voting on weekdays when most working-class people are working, etc. (In fact, it WAS illegal for Goldman to vote being a woman and all). There are ongoing efforts to continue depriving people of the vote even now.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Except she didn't say that. That quote has been attributed to at least three authors, including Mark Twain and peace activist Phillip Berrigan.
Plus, there's the fact that those in power have repeatedly sought to limit certain groups from voting--the poor, women, former slaves, natives, etc. Sometimes this has been through absolute prohibition, but also through literacy tests, poll taxes, fewer voting places in minority neighborhoods, voting on weekdays when most working-class people are working, etc. (In fact, it WAS illegal for Goldman to vote being a woman and all). There are ongoing efforts to continue depriving people of the vote even now.

And yet look at where representative democracy and a fixation on the vote has landed us. Direct action and autonomous alternatives from below are more important.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

And yet look at where representative deomcracy and a fixation on the vote has landed us. Direct action and autonomous alternatives from below are more important.

I agree. It's a shame that we're nowhere near that being possible though.

 

[Ax^]

And yet look at where representative deomcracy and a fixation on the vote has landed us. Direct action and autonomous alternatives from below are more important.

hmm fixation on the vote last time got rid of trump
time before people not being bother to vote whilst the other side was on the rise lead to trump

so not sure why you hit this thread with this subject

 

[Magnus McGinty]

hmm fixation on the vote last time got rid of trump
time before people not being bother to vote whilst the other side was on the rise lead to trump

so not sure why you hit this thread with this subject

It also created and enabled Trump.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Jesus I know AA can be annoying but you don't even see how you're part of this exact problem.

 

[Ax^]

hmm no sure i've ever voted for a populist right wing bastard in any country but do tell


or do you mean by voting we are encouring the bastards/

 

[Magnus McGinty]

hmm no sure i've ever voted for a populist right wing bastard in any country but do tell


or do you mean by voting we are encouring the bastards/

You're invested in the system that allows these people to rule.

 

[Ax^]

aye and when zee revolution comes i'll happy round up the bastards and line them up all against the wall

but in the current climate not voting is letting the wrong side win and they encouraging disinterest in politics to further their aims

got to keep an eye on the fuckers whilst you plan their downfall

 

[two sheds]

It's all your fault Ax^

I find it a bit of a relief actually I'd wondered whether some it was mine.

 

[Ax^]

*hangs head in shame for letting a guy win an election in a country when he cannot register to vote


I did not knOWWWWW


*shakes forlorn fist at the sky

 

[Magnus McGinty]

It's the age old argument. I guess we're on the same side but it isn't always convincing by some of the platitudes expressed here.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

I know AA can be annoying

I'm not the only one. I do think there are those who don't realise just how annoying they infact are.