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oh for fucks sake
Youre clearly a righteous man Magnus McGinty but sometimes you can be really petty.

Okay, I’m dipping from this exchange, it’s starting to feel like the last pint at closing time.

Please, if this really so vital, if you really do still need to get this aired and worked through, 18 months after the event, please go start a thread in community chat. I’ll join you there if you like.
 
The assumption was that because I'm male I meant violence. And you can't protest male violence with male violence.
I'd suggested no thing of course.

Once again, I can’t comment because unlike you, I don’t have perfect recall of that specific exchange.
 
Once again, I can’t comment because unlike you, I don’t have perfect recall of that specific exchange.
Maybe it's impossible to build bridges and solidarity and we'll therefore be fucked. So whatever. I just feel sorry for my son who'll get the worst of the incoming shit.
 
Fair dos, you personally weren't there when I got kicked off a thread for suggesting organising against misogynists like we do fascists.

I personally find both of those words have become really ambiguous these days.

You might have to draw up some really solid definitions that your posse signs up to.
 
I personally find both of those words have become really ambiguous these days.

You might have to draw up some really solid definitions that your posse signs up to.
I think misogyny Is easier to understand given it's on a personal level. A better comparison would be Patriarchy which I think exists in every state, to differing degrees. Fascism is pretty complicated.
 
I think misogyny Is easier to understand given it's on a personal level. A better comparison would be Patriarchy which I think exists in every state, to differing degrees. Fascism is pretty complicated.

Not sure. I'd be inclined to think fascism simpler and misogyny more complex.
And Patriarchy seems to have almost as many meanings as people who say the word.
 
Not sure. I'd be inclined to think fascism simpler and misogyny more complex.
And Patriarchy seems to have almost as many meanings as people who say the word.
Well fascism is the creation of a fascist state which requires some particular steps to make it so.
Patriarchy is a position of a state (which most have to varying degrees) regarding male rule and female rights.
Misogyny is the individual. I guess it could be tied into both of the above but at its base level it means men who hate women.
 
Well fascism is the creation of a fascist state which requires some particular steps to make it so.
Patriarchy is a position of a state (which most have to varying degrees) regarding male rule and female rights.
Misogyny is the individual. I guess it could be tied into both of the above but at its base level it means men who hate women.

I'm closest to agreeing with you on the third (which is at least a definition, rather than a tautology like the first one (ie. "fascism is what fascist states do").
While I'd say the others have perfectly valid meanings, day to day usages seem to be all over the place ime..
 
I'm closest to agreeing with you on the third (which is at least a definition, rather than a tautology like the first one (ie. "fascism is what fascist states do").
While I'd say the others have perfectly valid meanings, day to day usages seem to be all over the place ime..
Well yeah, but I wasn't discussing day to day meanings. A fascist state is particular to a certain set of principles. People calling conservatives fascists are wrong.
 
Well yeah, but I wasn't discussing day to day meanings. A fascist state is particular to a certain set of principles. People calling conservatives fascists are wrong.

The thing is that there were actual fascist philosophers that codified exactly what fascism was, and while there were some differences with both political proponents and their real-world practise, it was generally fairly consistent (they certainly did better than socialism on that front imo). Then the left spent a century tying themselves in knots over what was a pretty simple set of ideals, not all of which were evil, but which were truly evil in combination.
 
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Posted on the Scottish Trump thread but should probably go here too:

Interesting - All of Trump's company accounts are now "overdue".


There are various reasons of course and as well as the options discussed in the article, this is a common tactic for a firm desperately trying to raise more funds or otherwise try to stave-off the inevitable.
 
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