Essential Trump/Alt-Right Ridicule Thread

[two sheds]

 

[petee]

It's the age old argument. I guess we're on the same side but it isn't always convincing by some of the platitudes expressed here.

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a stupid cartoon. the argument in there is that WIC or AFDC recipients, section 8 tenants, those on the GI bill, are merely riding a carousel and are jerks for not being fully conversant with libcomism or similar, and signing onto its program. even the leftcoms i used to hang around with did things like strike, work with migrants, engage in tenant actions, all of which are "reformist", eh.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

And yet look at where representative democracy and a fixation on the vote has landed us. Direct action and autonomous alternatives from below are more important.

You keep saying that, yet I still don't know what you specifically have done to advance that agenda.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

a stupid cartoon. the argument in there is that WIC or AFDC recipients, section 8 tenants, those on the GI bill, are merely riding a carousel and are jerks for not being fully conversant with libcomism or similar, and signing onto its program. even the leftcoms i used to hang around with did things like strike, work with migrants, engage in tenant actions, all of which are "reformist", eh.

It pretty much captures the differences in the outlooks of Ax and AA I thought. Not sure I was making any other major announcements with it.

 

[Ax^]

it simplistic but I like it for it having some relevance

thinking you can completely disengage from the system whilst you try to undermine it is folly

you are going to need to bring people over

 

[Magnus McGinty]

If only everybody did, eh? That's AA's POV. And he's right.

 

[Ax^]

Wolfe Tone was a protestant, a land owner and a politician

 

[Magnus McGinty]

What?

 

[Ax^]

watch out who you want to disregard in the move towards zee revolution


history can show parallels

 

[Magnus McGinty]

watch out who you want to disregard in the move towards zee revolution


history can show parallels

No idea what you're on about so I'll leave it there.

 

[Ax^]

i can also be annoying

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I agree. It's a shame that we're nowhere near that being possible though.

I already said this a page ago. Not sure if you missed it.

 

[Serge Forward]

a stupid cartoon. the argument in there is that WIC or AFDC recipients, section 8 tenants, those on the GI bill, are merely riding a carousel and are jerks for not being fully conversant with libcomism or similar, and signing onto its program. even the leftcoms i used to hang around with did things like strike, work with migrants, engage in tenant actions, all of which are "reformist", eh.

Strikes, tenant actions and working with migrants are neither reformist nor revolutionary but can be examples of resistance to the current set up. They are a good thing to do, whether you're pro revolution or pro reform. Supporting Labour or the Democrats is most definitely reformist. While I understand people voting for these organisations as "the best of a bad bunch" any further engagement (eg actually joining or campaigning for these rackets) is a different kettle of fish.

Eta: defending these fuckers (as some on here want to do) is pointless.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Strikes, tenant actions and working with migrants are neither reformist nor revolutionary but can be examples of resistance to the current set up. They are a good thing to do, whether you're pro revolution or pro reform. Supporting Labour or the Democrats is most definitely reformist. While I understand people voting for these organisations as "the best of a bad bunch" any further engagement (eg actually joining or campaigning for these rackets) is a different kettle of fish.

Eta: defending these fuckers (as some on here want to do) is pointless.

Cheers for answering. He appears to be referencing US statutes which I don't know or care about so couldn't be arsed.

 

[petee]

Strikes, tenant actions and working with migrants are neither reformist nor revolutionary but can be examples of resistance to the current set up. They are a good thing to do, whether you're pro revolution or pro reform. Supporting Labour or the Democrats is most definitely reformist. While I understand people voting for these organisations as "the best of a bad bunch" any further engagement (eg actually joining or campaigning for these rackets) is a different kettle of fish.

which is why I am, natch, a member of no party nor do I engage in electoralism. but a slummer posting here thinks that to be happy about programs which help indigents keep their tenancy or which pay to buy food for children is to be a slave to capital. can you talk to him?

 

[petee]

US statutes which I don't know or care about

ahhhhh.

 

[Ax^]

Strikes, tenant actions and working with migrants are neither reformist nor revolutionary but can be examples of resistance to the current set up. They are a good thing to do, whether you're pro revolution or pro reform. Supporting Labour or the Democrats is most definitely reformist. While I understand people voting for these organisations as "the best of a bad bunch" any further engagement (eg actually joining or campaigning for these rackets) is a different kettle of fish.

Eta: defending these fuckers (as some on here want to do) is pointless.

as pointless as not voting

 

[Serge Forward]

I haven't seen that post petee. Please copy it here.

 

[Serge Forward]

as pointless as not voting

Vote if you want. I don't see the point myself, though I accept there may be rare occasions when it may have some value.

 

[petee]

I haven't seen that post petee. Please copy it here.

AA passim.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

ahhhhh.

Don't mean to be rude Brother but i can't influence anything there form here. Solidarity with you though.

 

[Ax^]

Vote if you want. I don't see the point myself, though I accept there may be rare occasions when it may have some value.

are you american it kinda important to the thread rather than supporting AA

 

[Magnus McGinty]

are you american it kinda important to the thread rather than supporting AA

Are you bloody American like?

 

[Ax^]

nope pete is mind

 

[Magnus McGinty]

What?

 

[Ax^]

*draws a stick figure diagram

this is to easy

*throws it away

 

[Magnus McGinty]

*too
what was too easy?

 

[Ax^]

depends if you using a an m1 garand

...

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Well this has been fun. Wake me when you want to discuss things I understand.

 

[Ax^]

next feb work for you