Entirely unashamed anti car propaganda, and the more the better.

[teuchter]

It's time for a rewatch of this all time great video

The comments are as full as you'd expect of people claiming that we should design roads around the needs of incompetent drivers. In fact most of our urban roads are designed around the needs of incompetent drivers, with the result that it's not usually drivers who get hurt when they mess up.

 

[Spymaster]

 

[David Clapson]

The comments are as full as you'd expect of people claiming that we should design roads around the needs of incompetent drivers. In fact most of our urban roads are designed around the needs of incompetent drivers, with the result that it's not usually drivers who get hurt when they mess up.
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It's clear that a huge number of drivers aren't skilled enough to give the legally required distance to cyclists when overtaking. If this law was rigorously enforced, and if the speed limits were also rigorously enforced, this country would be transformed. It could become a cycling paradise, like Norway and all those other sophisticated countries on the Continent

 

[platinumsage]

The comments are as full as you'd expect of people claiming that we should design roads around the needs of incompetent drivers. In fact most of our urban roads are designed around the needs of incompetent drivers, with the result that it's not usually drivers who get hurt when they mess up.

508 drivers died in 2019, but only 470 pedestrians.

 

[platinumsage]

The comments are as full as you'd expect of people claiming that we should design roads around the needs of incompetent drivers. In fact most of our urban roads are designed around the needs of incompetent drivers, with the result that it's not usually drivers who get hurt when they mess up.

It's clear that a huge number of drivers aren't skilled enough to give the legally required distance to cyclists when overtaking. If this law was rigorously enforced, and if the speed limits were also rigorously enforced, this country would be transformed. It could become a cycling paradise, like Norway and all those other sophisticated countries on the Continent

Norwegians are commencing a cyclist killing spree:

“The long-term trend shows that traffic in Norway has become safer for all road user groups. Car passenger occupants and pedestrians saw reductions of more than 72% each between 2000 and 2019. The user group that has benefited least are cyclists, who saw a 53% reduction in fatalities since 2000. More recently, starting in 2010, the number of fatalities decreased for all users, save for cyclists who saw a slight increase.”

 

[MickiQ]

It's time for a rewatch of this all time great video


edit: in case anyone can't play the vid, here it is on youtube

That's one of those things that's really funny when it happens to someone else

 

[edcraw]

508 drivers died in 2019, but only 470 pedestrians.

Yeah - those pedestrians really deserved it

For a joyless tw*t you’re also pretty offensive sometimes.

 

[edcraw]

That's one of those things that's really funny when it happens to someone else

Correct. Luckily you just have not to be a shit driver for it not to happen to yourself.

 

[platinumsage]

Yeah - those pedestrians really deserved it

For a joyless tw*t you’re also pretty offensive sometimes.

I don’t split casualties into deserving and undeserving, unlike some rabid car-abolitionists I know.

 

[David Clapson]

Norwegians are commencing a cyclist killing spree:

“The long-term trend shows that traffic in Norway has become safer for all road user groups. Car passenger occupants and pedestrians saw reductions of more than 72% each between 2000 and 2019. The user group that has benefited least are cyclists, who saw a 53% reduction in fatalities since 2000. More recently, starting in 2010, the number of fatalities decreased for all users, save for cyclists who saw a slight increase.”

It might be interesting if you could drop the trolling and do a like for like comparison with Norway, taking account of rates of cycling there, traffic offences, car buying, the effects of Arctic winter, the huge investment programme in cycling infrastructure etc etc

 

[platinumsage]

It might be interesting if you could drop the trolling and do a like for like comparison with Norway, taking account of rates of cycling there, traffic offences, car buying, the effects of Arctic winter, the huge investment programme in cycling infrastructure etc etc

I’ve already done some rough calculations on that but fear many here wouldn’t like the results.

 

[platinumsage]

Anyway weren’t you recently taking pride in a plan to chug around Europe in a non-Euro 4 compliant diesel camper van?

 

[David Clapson]

Anyway weren’t you recently taking pride in a plan to chug around Europe in a non-Euro 4 compliant desiel camper van?

Actually it's a petrol one, compliant with the current Euro standard, converted to LPG, running on BioLPG when possible. And I'm exchanging it for a bricks and mortar dwelling. I hope the net effect on my carboon footprint will be pretty good.

 

[platinumsage]

Actually it's a petrol one, compliant with the current Euro standard, converted to LPG, running on BioLPG when possible. And I'm exchanging it for a bricks and mortar dwelling. I hope the net effect on my carboon footprint will be pretty good.

That would probably be debatable, unless your new dwelling will have a wood-burning stove.

 

[David Clapson]

That would probably be debatable, unless your new dwelling will have a wood-burning stove.

I'm going to try it without a heater, wintering in southern europe, with very very warm clothes in case of freak cold snaps

 

[teuchter]

508 drivers died in 2019, but only 470 pedestrians.

Please note that I took care to say "urban roads". It would be good if you could take similar care in your replies.

 

[Spymaster]

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

That's one of those things that's really funny when it happens to someone else

If only there had been a really easy way to avoid it happening.

 

[teuchter]

20’s Plenty – the new norm | Exhibition & seminars

www.transportxtra.com

In case any of the thread dinosaurs want to go and set up a protest outside

The world is changing its perspective on what is an appropriate speed for motor vehicles wherever they share public spaces with people. 30km/h or 20mph is becoming the new global norm for urban and village streets shared between motors and people.

Gone are the days of designing our streets around cars and instead there is a recognition that a healthy city, town or village needs a far better balance in risk and convenience between the people inside and those outside motor vehicles. With most of the larger urban authorities having already set a 20mph limit as a norm it is increasingly the clear that what is good for residents in cities is also good for residents in towns and villages. Already thousands of parish councils have called on their county council to set a 20mph limit as a norm. Some counties have already done so.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Cue the twats chorus of “But it’s really hard to drive my car so slowly…”

 

[Spymaster]

Cue the twats chorus of “But it’s really hard to drive my car so slowly…”

It's a piece of piss to drive slowly

Just not as much fun

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

It's a piece of piss to drive slowly

Just not as much fun




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That’s what track days are for

 

[platinumsage]

That’s what track days are for

Don't you care about squirrels and other small wildlife? Should be a mandatory 5mph limit for track days, there's no justifiable reason to go faster as you're not driving a sick child to hospital or whatever but simply twatting about for your own amusement.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Don't you care about squirrels and other small wildlife?

Not really, no

 

[platinumsage]

Not really, no

Yes but I do and I want to restrict your driving because I am always right, and your wants and needs are irrelevant.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I think you’re making one of those points that only works in your head again.

 

[edcraw]

Obviously very important people in their stupidly large cars.

 

[platinumsage]

Obviously very important people in their stupidly large cars.

Seems like the driver got out of the way safely in time so that the children could navigate the junction in peace without their moronic father screaming blue murder about another road user.

 

[edcraw]

Seems like the driver got out of the way safely in time so that the children could navigate the junction in peace without their moronic father screaming blue murder about another road user.

Yeah - you’re a tw*t.

 

[platinumsage]

Yeah - you’re a tw*t.

I've already concluded that you have neither passed a driving test nor a cycling proficiency course, and are consequently clueless about both. I just hope you can manage to pedestrianate yourself about the place without coming a cropper on a regular basis.