Entirely unashamed anti car propaganda, and the more the better.
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Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
Don’t know why I’m posting on the cesspit that is this thread 
but even car makers don’t won’t you to drive anymore
www.forbes.com
but even car makers don’t won’t you to drive anymore
Walk Or Cycle Instead Of Driving, Urges Ford Boss
Spearheading a “park your car” campaign Ford Europe president Stuart Rowley says the world would be a better place if more people gave up driving and walked and cycled instead.
www.forbes.com
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
I am amazed that you can be so uncynical. They're sponsoring cycling events in the same way that Shell sponsor climate change displays in museums. The aim of their "park your car" campaign is to promote their "carbon neutral in Europe" targets - encouraging people that it's fine for the environment to own a car and use it for journeys over 3 miles.
I think it’s more like cigarette companies launching low tar versions - they know the writing’s on the wall so want to try and get ahead of it to delay the inevitable out right ban!
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Of course Ford is stopping short of what they should be saying, which is to use public transport instead of the car, not just for short trips. But they are at the beginning of a process of realising that they are engaged in business that one day will be seen as negatively as arms trading. So it's OK for them to take small steps to start with. And of course their customers are hyper-sensitive and frightened (look at the posters on here who start freaking out about North Korea style dictatorships if you suggest they could try going on a bus just to see what it's like - or claim that human joy is to be banned outright if speed limits are enforced). So they mustn't scare the horses.
Just recently I was talking to someone who works for BP which is now trying to get themselves established in the wind farm market.
Give it a few years and we'll see that Ford are starting to invest in car-crushing plants and walking shoes.
Just recently I was talking to someone who works for BP which is now trying to get themselves established in the wind farm market.
Give it a few years and we'll see that Ford are starting to invest in car-crushing plants and walking shoes.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Are you the culture secretary by any chance?
T & P
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Instead of trying to be funny and engaging in personal abuse, it would be interesting to know if you care to answer the simple quesiton of what level of car restrtictions would you like to see implemented.
It's a very fucking simple quesiton. So either answer it, or quit the flippant remarks.
The same goes for likes merchant edcraw
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
Anyone who thinks it's a very simple question should probably have their thoughts on the matter automatically discounted.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Some top Guardian debunking here for the tyres kill people brigade:
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
If only there was a massive thread where I’ve stated my position multiple times.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Most of the "debunking" points (which seem fair enough even if arguably a bit straw-man) are actually addressed in the original study, which the Guardian article is based on.
Gaining traction, losing tread Pollution from tire wear now 1,850 times worse than exhaust emissions — Emissions Analytics
By some distance, the research Emissions Analytics published in early 2020 claiming that tire particulate wear emissions were 1,000 times worse than exhaust emissions generated the most feedback of any subject we have tackled so far – feedback that was a mixture of surprise and scepticism
www.emissionsanalytics.com
The conclusion seems to be that particulates from tyres are a significant problem as far as airborne pollution is concerned, but they will do further research into this.
T & P
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How convenient.
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Just about every one of you here have been supportive over the years of posts calling for a ban on all cars in cities, and other times of suggestions to ban just privately owned cars. Which are wildly different propositions. And then when discussing banning just privately own cars, you lot are lost for words when anyone mentions a city full of club car vehicles doesn't solve most of the problems posed by privately owned cars.
The anti car posters in this forum are all over the fucking place when it comes to traffic management discussions. Have always been. Can't even agree on what you want to happen, and prefer to go with the wind based on the discussion of the moment. Please don't tell me it ain't so- because it is.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
I think you need to go back and do some reading.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Glad I have such power to unite everyone! When’s the ban come into affect?
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Even if you had made your own position clear, you’re not speaking for everyone else here, are you? Therefore your post #7290 is
quite uncalled for as well as irrelevant to others here.
liquidindian
Hello
I see you're arguing not for an instant ban, but for car use to tapir off.
Yeah but your post #6784 says the complete opposite!
maomao
普費斯
So we're all meant to agree with each other?
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
"Tell me what you think"
"No, not like that"
"No, not like that"
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No. You missed the the point completely.
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Just three from a quick search. Plenty of other examples, liked by various people, also available.
And the crowning glory: look who’s just popped up:
Oh dear dear…
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You are fucking taking piss now, aren’t you?
