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A view from on the pitch:

Algeria's former Portsmouth midfielder Hassan Yebda admits he witnessed first-hand how England pair Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard fail to reproduce their club form for their country.

Yebda, who was on loan at Fratton Park from Benfica last season, says there is a clear difference between the Gerrard and Lampard of Liverpool and Chelsea and the same players when wearing England shirts.

"Everyone knows Lampard is not the same player in Chelsea and with England," said Yebda.

"I felt that in the match, I agree. I don't know, maybe it's because Gerrard and Lampard have the same style, they can't play together. That's what I can tell you."

He added: "They play at a very different level and I don't know why. Ask [Fabio] Capello. If they win third game they can do something though."
Obviously not yet been fully indoctrinated in the cult.
 
listening to Terry speak it sounds like they've all thrown their toys out of the pram because Fabio treats them with discipline...Tbh, if I wasn't English I'd be pissing myself laughing at a bunch of children bickering about having nothing to do at the training camp whilst pissing away an opportunity to win their greatest sporting competition on Earth.
 
listening to Terry speak it sounds like they've all thrown their toys out of the pram because Fabio treats them with discipline...

I think it's a cultural thing. Capello doesn't understand that it's essential to England's players preparations to get shit-faced a couple times a week, and getting papped coming out of Shaggers nightclub at 4am with a mystery blonde.
 
Formations work when you have the right players. England don't. A backline including Johnson and Upson is average at best.

4-3-3 works for Brazil because they have Maicon, Bastos and Alves. They can play one touch football and whichever tempo they like. Again, England can't....some of the players most def can with their clubs but an international level it's lacking.

Simply the talk of wing backs etc is a blind alley because England have no one who can deliver a decent ball into the box. SWP can't, Lennon can't, Walcott can't, Bentley sometimes can but unconvincing, Young again sometimes can but is hit and miss. England became too reliant on Beckham as their 'out'...if in doubt get it to the right and let him do the rest.
 
Terry looking a bit daft now.
That's new, is it?


You can play any formation you like but Gerrard is going to play exactly where he wants. More than that, as at Liverpol, he'll expect every player around him to instantly respond to his changes of position, and feed him the kinds of passes he wants as well. It is always, and will always be, about what Steven thinks is best for Steven.
 
England will be better off once Lampard and Gerrard retire. England team sheet looks depressingly like the failures of the last two world cups.
 
I'm partly right (so far): BBC is reporting Upson starts

Mr Grizzly Grin just needs to fuck off Gerrard and pick Crouch and Joe Cole, and then I might start to calm down.
 
i'm going to put a tenner on slovenia to beat england :)

i've a solid record on the england upsets, like winning £80 when croatia beat england, and i fancy another balkan team to turn them over. :)
 
i'm going to put a tenner on slovenia to beat england :)

i've a solid record on the england upsets, like winning £80 when croatia beat england, and i fancy another balkan team to turn them over. :)

I think you've probably missed the value on that bet.




I reckon we should play with 8 players on our own goal line blocking and 2 players running up field passing the ball to each other and scoring loads of goals. We'd win by masses then.
 
I think you've probably missed the value on that bet.




I reckon we should play with 8 players on our own goal line blocking and 2 players running up field passing the ball to each other and scoring loads of goals. We'd win by masses then.
i'm going for 2-1 to slovenia: which should bump up the value considerably.
 
I agree with the team in the op except i'd play gerrad instead of crouch and green instead of hart.

If we don't win i'm rioting.


dave
 
A one-man dave riot. I believe that's what the east Asians call a "tsunami", is it not?
 
Chilean players on BBC1 now talking about how they wake up every morning thinking of the people back home that lost everything in the earthquake and how they just really want to bring some joy to those people. They have a flag at the training ground and it reminds them of the earthquake every day.

Maybe England could do with a bit of that attitude (although I could live without the earthquake).
 
A one-man dave riot. I believe that's what the east Asians call a "tsunami", is it not?


I'll be with dave on this one. I'd prefer we trashed Bedford than Bath though. My council taxes paid for those flower displays.
 
I think you've probably missed the value on that bet.




I reckon we should play with 8 players on our own goal line blocking and 2 players running up field passing the ball to each other and scoring loads of goals. We'd win by masses then.

It works on fifa 10 :D
 
A whole new paradigm in one-twos.

"To me"
"To you"
"To me"
""To you"

It's a plan that's brilliant in it's simplicity. Audacious even.



Alternatively we could get one of the players to hide the ball under their shirt while the other players huddle around pretending to kick the ball to each other, the player hiding the ball could nonchalantly stroll upfield, undetected. Then when in prime position, drop the ball out of their shirt and kick home the winner.

I reckon we could get 2 or 3 goals like this before they cotton on.
 
Alternatively we could get one of the players to hide the ball under their shirt while the other players huddle around pretending to kick the ball to each other, the player hiding the ball could nonchalantly stroll upfield, undetected. Then when in prime position, drop the ball out of their shirt and kick home the winner.

I reckon we could get 2 or 3 goals like this before they cotton on.
A nice idea, but one fatal flaw - modern football shorts do not feature pockets. How are our players to act nonchalantly without the ability to casually put their hands in their pockets?
 
Chilean players on BBC1 now talking about how they wake up every morning thinking of the people back home that lost everything in the earthquake and how they just really want to bring some joy to those people. They have a flag at the training ground and it reminds them of the earthquake every day.

Maybe England could do with a bit of that attitude (although I could live without the earthquake).

Mawkish rot I'd say. 'We're doing it for the little people'.
 
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