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Also, 0-0s make goals more exciting.

1-0 can be a huge win - the tension on that one scoring moment is where all footballs drama comes in. Sposedly at one point the US wanted to make the goals bigger and the ball faster to get more 'points' in the game - which completely misses the beauty of the game i think. I can live without goals - then again i have been supporting spurs all my life...
 
It's a game that little girls play to give them a Title IX equivalent to the boys sports.

:facepalm:

I know you're trolling, but it's comments like that that make the world roll their eyes at the US.

Imagine how much more exciting a goal is than points in basketball or a touch down in American Football. So much more tension and excitement.
 
Nah, there's no more innate excitement in a goal than there is in a touchdown or home run. Perhaps baskets are devalued too much mind.

If anything sometimes football suffers from too many clumsy or 'unexpected' goals that have little tension or build up. I can't say that Robert Green's goalside muff was exciting for example, unless you're Jeremy Beadle plotting a sporting bloopers video from beyond the grave.

At their best US sports easily rival football for tension and drama. Sometimes there's even a sense of attrition and dominance that soccer can rarely rival
 
We play field hockey and bowls in this country, along with the kind of horsing events involving pastel shades and braying tones. People in glass houses...
 
The latter three are much more tactical and harder to 'get' quickly to be fair.

Although the subtleties of basketball are usually lost in the flood of points at the end.

I don't know, they all have their pros and cons. But the idea that a goal in football has more innate tension or drama is innately false. A lot of football games are just terrible.

I've no wish to ever see a minute more of Uruguay vs France for example.
 
It's like having sex without an orgasm.

No. It isn't.

Tho if you wanted to try and follow that erroneous analogy through, you'd realise you liked 'sex where one person has an orgasm, and the other leaves very disappointed, and possibly used and dirty.'

Tho perhaps that is what sex means to you.
 
The latter three are much more tactical and harder to 'get' quickly to be fair.

Although the subtleties of basketball are usually lost in the flood of points at the end.

I don't know, they all have their pros and cons. But the idea that a goal in football has more innate tension or drama is innately false. A lot of football games are just terrible.

I've no wish to ever see a minute more of Uruguay vs France for example.

There are bad and good games in any sport.

And you're biased because a) you played American Football at uni and b) you're a contrarian ;)
 
Nah, I like them all tbh. I watch more soccer than any other sport, although I'm far better at running in straight lines and hitting things in reality - hence the rugby and American football past.

But a lot of football can be dull too you're waiting all too often for that special game. You can bellow at the screen in frustration and watch happily whilst distracted in a big room of people.

The US sports tend to need more attention, more specialised knowledhge to enjoy. There's the sense of attrition, the stats, the telephone book sized selection of plays and so on

Football's a great, passive sport to graze and consume. It's also something you can pick up and explain in minutes - it has the immediacy and simplicity the others often lack. It also sometimes lacks the variety and tactical subtlety
 
Nah, I like them all tbh. I watch more soccer than any other sport, although I'm far better at running in straight lines and hitting things in reality - hence the rugby and American football past.

But a lot of football can be dull too you're waiting all too often for that special game. You can bellow at the screen in frustration and watch happily whilst distracted in a big room of people.

that's true

The US sports tend to need more attention, more specialised knowledhge to enjoy. There's the sense of attrition, the stats, the telephone book sized selection of plays and so on

Football's a great, passive sport to graze and consume. It's also something you can pick up and explain in minutes - it has the immediacy and simplicity the others often lack. It also sometimes lacks the variety and tactical subtlety

but that is complete and utter bollocks
 
I don't think it is tbh. You still get, for example, the feeling of watching the same England, despite multiple managers, playing much the same football with a few frills.

There is far more variety and tactical planning in US football or basketball, more a range of styles of play.

That's partly because plays are more a succession of set plays than a fluid thing a lot of the time. But you can't deny that those set plays are planned and executed in varities that football can't, and perhaps really shouldn't try and match.

Different things really. I like seeing spontaneous skills light up a football game. But there's also something glorious about watching a beautifully executed draw play; the deliberate misleads, the fat guys carving a channel and the blocks going in as arranged.

Different strokes really. Neither better or worse; just different.
 
if american rugby was better, i'm sure it would have caught on in a lot of other countries too though
 
Uh? You want glory and beauty, watch Lionel Messi on the ball. Nothing, nothing, nothing like that in American Football. Footballers don't just carry out plans, that's the point.
 
Of course they do. Just less rigid plans.

And if you think there aren't artisans and free spirits in American football or basketball (etc) then you're conning yourself.
 
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Football's a great, passive sport to graze and consume. It's also something you can pick up and explain in minutes - it has the immediacy and simplicity the others often lack. It also sometimes lacks the variety and tactical subtlety
Totally disagree. How's football 'passive'? It elicits more of a passionate crowd reaction than just about any sport.

And most Americans haven't the slightest clue what offside is, even when it's explained. Many. times. over. Believe me, I've tried.
 
Incidentally, American football is the most predictable of the US big sports, and proper football the most unpredictable.

Surprises make soccer the best sport

BASEBALL has home runs, American football has touchdowns and basketball has slam dunks. But when it comes to which is the most exciting sport to follow, soccer takes the gold medal.

Eli Ben-Naim, Sidney Redner and Federico Vazquez at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico decided to look at unpredictability of results - how often a team with a worse record overcomes an apparently superior one - as the best measure of how exciting a league is. "If there are no upsets, then every game is predictable and hence boring," says Ben-Naim.

The team analysed results from more than 300,000 games over the last century from the US's national hockey, football, baseball and basketball leagues and the top English football league. Rugby and cricket were omitted because they do not have a big following in the US.

Their results showed that the "upset frequency" was highest for soccer, followed by baseball, hockey, basketball and finally American football. But when they looked only at data from the past 10 years, the English football Premiership and baseball swapped places, which suggests that soccer might have become more predictable in recent years.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn8531
 
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