ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
He's also several years younger and not likely to be pensioned off before the next Euros.
England Redux
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He's also several years younger and not likely to be pensioned off before the next Euros.
He'll be England's answer on the left over the next decade, mark my words.
Very very talented, and very down to earth.
If he stays injury free he'll walk young player of the year next season.
ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
Never going to happen. These are the kids that used to bully us at school. Footballers who aren't utter cunts get kicked to pieces before they are out of their teens.
stupid dogbot
Haughty and Superior
Well, I use Lampard as an example because he's the encumbent in that position. But I just don't think Carrick will perform in that role against high-end opposition, I'm afraid, and I base that on having seen him try.
Oh, and he'll be 29 in a month, so he's hardly the fresh young face, either.
Corax
Luke 5:16
I'm in the majority though! Club player of the year 2010? (As voted by Members & Season Ticket Holders)....I've seen you say this before, but fellow Spurs fan london_calling (whose opinion on football I respect) reckons he's shit
Michael Dawson.
That's intentional though. Carrick and Berbatov are still on the Spurs payroll. We sell them to you for stacks of cash, they try to sabotage your season, and then we'll buy them back for a vastly reduced fee. It's all part of Daniel Levy's cunning plan.
ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
I disagree. He's the player who will sit behind the strikers and make everything happen. He's a brilliant in the hole number 10 of the kind Rooney clearly isn't. Rooney will end up on the left. Because he's most effective coming from that side, and because there are other players who can play up front but bloody few good left wingers.
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Ah, fair enough. But can you trust Spuds fans with important decisions like that?
stupid dogbot
Haughty and Superior
That's intentional though. Carrick and Berbatov are still on the Spurs payroll. We sell them to you for stacks of cash, they try to sabotage your season, and then we'll buy them back for a vastly reduced fee. It's all part of Daniel Levy's cunning plan.
Hmmm, I can see him going back on a free in a few years, mop up a last few quid in his medal-less dotage... Still, when the ££ matters more than the trophies, that probably counts as a win.
Berbatov, you can have on a free, now. However, I suspect his one good season for you will turn out to be just that.
ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
Definitely not a fresh young face. The trouble is there really aren't many quality experienced English central midfielders who aren't approaching their use by date. If there's to be any experience in the centre of midfield it pretty much has to be somebody barely adequate.
ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
Gareth Southgate and Graeme Le Saux were bullies ?
I'll bet Southgate was to at least some extent. Maybe there's the odd exception. I can imagine Gary Lineker being a total pain in the butt, but not actually a bully as such.
stupid dogbot
Haughty and Superior
I see what you're getting at, honestly. I just don't think Carrick's up to it.
He's had some really decent spells for us and I like him as a player, but boy have there been times when it's really mattered and he's not really lived up to it.
Milan away, Euro semis, for instance. Might as well have not been on the pitch.
Problem to my mind with Carrick is, for Engerland, every single game will be like that...
I'd love to see him play there, but the sad fact is since he's played in that position in adult teams he's been crowded out and kicked to pieces.
When he plays on the left, the full backs don't seem to get away with fouling him so often. I think he will better off learning the game a bit more protected on the left wing, and then converting to an out and out striker in a couple of years, similar to the way Henry developed.
Steel Icarus
we move
Next world cup, amongst others, I think we'll have (as established squad players):
Joe Hart
Jack Wilshere
Micah Richards
Theo Walcott
Jack Rodwell
Chris Smalling
Mark Noble
Gaby Agbonlahor
Daniel Sturridge
Jay Emmanuel-Thomas
Martin Kelly
Adam Johnson
Johnson, Cole (A), Dawson, Huddlestone, Milner and Lennon will all still be there. I think, from what we've seen of him so far, building a team around Wilshere might not be a bad bet. I still don't like two centre forwards. Maybe if you put Theo up front we don't have to worry so much about his decision making. He's got absolutely no football brain. "Theo, pass it into the goal."
I'm still waiting for Sonny Pike to make his breakthrough.
Joe Hart
Jack Wilshere
Micah Richards
Theo Walcott
Jack Rodwell
Chris Smalling
Mark Noble
Gaby Agbonlahor
Daniel Sturridge
Jay Emmanuel-Thomas
Martin Kelly
Adam Johnson
Johnson, Cole (A), Dawson, Huddlestone, Milner and Lennon will all still be there. I think, from what we've seen of him so far, building a team around Wilshere might not be a bad bet. I still don't like two centre forwards. Maybe if you put Theo up front we don't have to worry so much about his decision making. He's got absolutely no football brain. "Theo, pass it into the goal."
I'm still waiting for Sonny Pike to make his breakthrough.
Steel Icarus
we move
Poor Sonny Pike. Still, we only have to wait eight-ten years for Gerard Garner to fail in the public eye.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
I think that team has exactly the same weakness as the current team. No width, so the full backs have to get forward, exposing two sluggish centre backs. Carrick's incredibly slow, Gerrard has no positional discipline at all, so what happens when they lose the ball high up the pitch?
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
the Argentina and Spain teams seem to have a few lads who aren't utter cunts though...
ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
I envisage width on the right from Lennon, who can track back fairly well too. On the left it's a problem, but that's because there isn't a single player who can actually do the job. So I see it as a matter of Joe Cole, Milner and Rooney being able to get wide left now and again. With Carrick staying just in front of the defence and not being asked to get forward at all. Not the ideal man for the job, but there's not a lot to choose from. I count on Gerrard having no positional discipline. Lennon stays wide anyway. If Carrick stays back almost all the time, then Gerrard can just do his thing, ranging from collecting the ball from the back 4 to filling in up front whenever Rooney drifts wide left.
ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
So do most teams. It's an English thing that you can't use your brain and your body at the same time.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
If Carrick isn't going to move from just in front of the defence, why don't we just pick someone who can tackle/run? If you count on Gerrard's lack of discipline you've got basically 5 attacking players.
Dr. Furface
One small step for me
Hopefully Owen Hargreaves will be back soon.
stupid dogbot
Haughty and Superior
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Fuck it. Could be basically anyone with a sense of positional discipline, who can do the job.
mattie
missing in inaction
Although the bar was admittedly very low, he was West Ham's best player by a mile last season. Simply superb. Grabbed an embattled and demoralised squad by the scruff of the neck and never gave up - covered, tackled, tracked, harried, still got forward and never complained.
I love him.
Shame he's not so good on the passing and shooting front, but you can't have it all.
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
I know it's a pretty insignificant question in the grand scheme of our shitness, but I'd like to add I have never seen such a 'wtf' substitution as to bring on Heskey at 3-1 down (or whenever it was).
(aside from the games a pal has told me about Redknapp bringing on a defender for a striker when Portsmouth (or something) were 2-1 down and it later turned out he had money on Portsmouth to lose!)
(aside from the games a pal has told me about Redknapp bringing on a defender for a striker when Portsmouth (or something) were 2-1 down and it later turned out he had money on Portsmouth to lose!)
Whatever the team you pick, I can certainly see a good case for the next England manager (assuming that Capello does the honourable thing and falls on his sword) having the courage to oust Gerrard, Lampard and the players of that generation and start afresh with a much younger squad. They might not reach the required standard for a few years, but it may be hoped that they would have the team spirit which has historically always been England's strength and which was so obviously and painfully lacking in the World Cup squad.
Germany have benefitted from promoting several of their U21 squad, who have played together for a number of years, to the seniors. England should do the same.
I would also give Stuart Pearce the manager's job.
Germany have benefitted from promoting several of their U21 squad, who have played together for a number of years, to the seniors. England should do the same.
I would also give Stuart Pearce the manager's job.
