Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Rather drawn to the idea of a private plate too…
Not really!
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Electric cars
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I don't like their electric SUV offerings- then again I don't like SUVs in general- but their GT model is in my eyes aesthetically stunning, and the best looking electric car in existenceUrgh
Not that I could afford it, so never bloody mind
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Books, not bombs
I got to sit in one last night; it just felt wrong. A Mustang is supposed to be a 2 door coupe with a big ice under the bonnet
The paramedic whose car it was said she didn't like it, too big and too powerful
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Just heard from the dealer, expected with them 16th August, (we're away then), but should be on the drive for my birthday.
Still not sure if done the right thing here, will it short-out in the rain
strung out
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Make sure you don't use it in the bath.Just heard from the dealer, expected with them 16th August, (we're away then), but should be on the drive for my birthday.
Still not sure if done the right thing here, will it short-out in the rain
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Have you sorted out your home charger yet?Just heard from the dealer, expected with them 16th August, (we're away then), but should be on the drive for my birthday.
Still not sure if done the right thing here, will it short-out in the rain
strung out
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
I put a Ctek charger in our garage in anticipation of our EV future - we'll probably get an iX when the X5 lease is up. It's not hard to do but I ended up splitting the meter tails and putting in a seperate consumer unit for EV charging as DC leakage from the charger was confusing the AC RCDs in the original CU. I am not an electrician and all this was very illegal but I don't give a fuck and neither should anybody else.
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
World's largest battery maker announces major breakthrough in energy density
"A new era of universal electrification of sea, land and air transportation." CATL announces new battery that doubles energy intensity.
thedriven.io
Looks interesting, not just for cars...
Signal 11
also programmed for conversational english
World's largest battery maker announces major breakthrough in energy density
"A new era of universal electrification of sea, land and air transportation." CATL announces new battery that doubles energy intensity.
Looks interesting, not just for cars...
These could be better for everything apart from transport. Lower energy density but don't need lithium or cobalt. Good enough for cars if you don't need very long range.
Why China Could Dominate the Next Big Advance in Batteries
China is far ahead of the rest of the world in the development of batteries that use sodium, which are starting to compete with ubiquitous lithium power cells.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Home charger now installed. £1000 that cost, pricey business these electric cars...
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Books, not bombs
16th August; I might be free that day. Collect it for you?Just heard from the dealer, expected with them 16th August, (we're away then), but should be on the drive for my birthday.
Still not sure if done the right thing here, will it short-out in the rain
For a small fee.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Very kind of you, but I think these things now drive themselves...
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Books, not bombs
Isn't that only Tesla's and only once they have been programmed?
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
I have no idea and in all honesty am a bit scared by all this.
I do not know what a kilowatt hour is.
I didn't know until last week that each wheel has its own motor.
I have no idea what tariff my electricity is, who on earth does?
It's like learning to walk all over again.
BigTom
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a kilowatt hour is one unit of electricity. It is also how much electricity is used by something pulling 1 kilowatt running for one hour.
You used to run soundsystems didn't you? Just think back to that and how much wattage your system pulled and what you needed from your generator and it's the same kind of thing, except expressed over time rather than at a static moment. You probably never worked out how much diesel you needed though and just kept topping it up.
Anyway if you know your battery is say 100kw/h then it means you need to use 100 units of electricity to fill it from completely empty to totally full. You can check the cost per unit with your energy supplier. I'm not sure why else you need to know what a kw/h is in relation to using an EV.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
All Audi EVs are single or dual motor. Only Rivian and Rimac have quad motor production cars though BMW and Porsche are working on it.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Seems there is a charging speed that is related to Kw/h, all very odd.
And I think you're giving far more credit than is due to free party people and their engineering skills, was more like, "Plug that in Dave, does it work? No? Oh, it's gone bang, fuck it, want another line?..." - once repaired a blown fuse on a strobe with some chewing gum wrapper...
BigTom
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hmm.. I thought charging speeds were given in kw not kw/h. Like a domestic 13amp supply at 230v is about 3kw so if you plug your car into that for an hour you'll get 3kw/h of fuel in your battery.
If you have a miles per kw/h figure (the mpg equivalent) you can work out about how far you can go on that amount of charge... but I expect the car will tell you that itself anyway.
Looby
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I thought they were mostly free on deals with the dealer!
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
kW = power
kWh = energy
Power is a time derivative of energy therefore kW/h is meaningless (in this context).
kWh = energy
Power is a time derivative of energy therefore kW/h is meaningless (in this context).
Looby
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What a swizz! I can get an electric or hybrid lease car through work in my new job but I can’t do it if I have to pay for the home charger.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
It depends on the quality of the battery, efficiency of the motors compared to the weight of the car etc. The most important factor is the weight of the drivers right foot but you should expect 2 to 4 miles for 1kwh of charge. I have a mate who rented a Tesla S who got 54 miles out of it but he drives like a loon no matter what he is driving.
The rental sent out a pickup truck with a portable generator to rescue him.
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Books, not bombs
Even having read the follow up, I still find myself agreeing with RW on this
www.theguardian.com
www.theguardian.com
I see panorama is doing a bit on EVs tonight. What was not good was seeing a programme recently where, when building new cars, at least two separate people at the manufacturers mentioned that the ( ice) cars were built to last 19 years. That's rubbish and does not help.
I love electric vehicles – and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped | Rowan Atkinson
Sadly, keeping your old petrol car may be better than buying an EV, says actor Rowan Atkinson
Fact check: why Rowan Atkinson is wrong about electric vehicles
Last week we ran a piece by Rowan Atkinson casting doubt on the environmental benefits of electric vehicles. Here Simon Evans of Carbon Brief offers his response
I see panorama is doing a bit on EVs tonight. What was not good was seeing a programme recently where, when building new cars, at least two separate people at the manufacturers mentioned that the ( ice) cars were built to last 19 years. That's rubbish and does not help.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Even having read the follow up, I still find myself agreeing with RW on this
I love electric vehicles – and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped | Rowan Atkinson
Sadly, keeping your old petrol car may be better than buying an EV, says actor Rowan Atkinson
Fact check: why Rowan Atkinson is wrong about electric vehicles
Last week we ran a piece by Rowan Atkinson casting doubt on the environmental benefits of electric vehicles. Here Simon Evans of Carbon Brief offers his response
I see panorama is doing a bit on EVs tonight. What was not good was seeing a programme recently where, when building new cars, at least two separate people at the manufacturers mentioned that the ( ice) cars were built to last 19 years. That's rubbish and does not help.
beesonthewhatnow has consistently said the EVs are not the answer to anything, and he's right, all the issues of private car ownership clogging the streets remain and the manufacture and charging is so bad for the planet that the CO2 released by ICE cars pales. What he and Rowan fail to appreciate is that EV's give the owners a sense of smug-superiority and general air of planet saviours. If you get a big Audi one you can look down on people for not being as green as you and for being hopeless proles at the same time, it's a win-win.
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Obviously EVs will at some become not just more environmentally sound over the lifetime of the vehicle from manufacturing to final disposal & recycling, but imperative because at the end of the day fossil fuels will run out eventually.
But the ban on all new build ICE vehicles by 2030 or even 2035 is looking increasingly unworkable, and actually more environmentally damaging than a longer transition.
If the government is prepared to ban something, a ban on diesel cars coupled with massive financial penalties for large and heavy petrol cars would surely be far more environmentally friendly? Because what is
undeniable is that modern petrol cars are ludicrously more efficient and less polluting than the equivalent model from three decades ago. Can’t find any stats but I’d love to see emission and consumption figures from, say, a 1990-generation VW Polo with a 1.2L engine vs the latest generation model of equivalent engine.
But the ban on all new build ICE vehicles by 2030 or even 2035 is looking increasingly unworkable, and actually more environmentally damaging than a longer transition.
If the government is prepared to ban something, a ban on diesel cars coupled with massive financial penalties for large and heavy petrol cars would surely be far more environmentally friendly? Because what is
undeniable is that modern petrol cars are ludicrously more efficient and less polluting than the equivalent model from three decades ago. Can’t find any stats but I’d love to see emission and consumption figures from, say, a 1990-generation VW Polo with a 1.2L engine vs the latest generation model of equivalent engine.
pseudonarcissus
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There are several problems here...you want to ban diesels that emit less CO2 than petrol cars, like for like, but dump more particulates into the air. A '90 Polo probably got more miles to the gallon as it was probably 20% lighter...just nowhere near as safe in an accident.
pseudonarcissus
fluttering and dancing
I'm utterly wrong regarding fuel consumption:
1990 model - 1.0 l, 44 bhp, 767 kg, 43 mpg
2021 model - 1.0 l, 79 bhp, 1133 kg, 61 mpg
so, 50% heavier and 50% better milage.
